Reinstalled starter and now car wont turn over.
08-12-04, 06:33 PM
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Reinstalled starter and now car wont turn over.
Ok so I finished my clutch job and got the car back together and now she wont start. I plugged most everything back in but there is one plug down by the starter that doesn't have a friend. It's red and black and just hangin' there. I dunno if that does something or not. But when I turn the key to the on position I hear kind of like a ticking noise as if electricity were making sparks or something. And when I try to crank it over I can hear the motor on the starter spinning but the motor isn't even turning over or even trying to. Did I wire it wrong or something? Someone help please I need my car back ASAP!
-Chris
-Chris
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08-12-04, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WAYNE88N/A
Did you forget to connect the big ground cable under the upper starter bolt (or nut)?
-Chris
08-12-04, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelFregoe
Is the "extra" wire the one that connects to the female tab on the solonoid?
If you're asking if it's a grounding wire it's not. Everything is grounded...
-Chris
08-12-04, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelFregoe
Is the "extra" wire the one that connects to the female tab on the solonoid?
thats what i was gonna say but if you hear a cliking that sounds like the solenoid right there , so make sure everything is connected properly
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08-12-04, 07:04 PM
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Ok the loose wire is a black wire that is connected to the white and red wire. Now the white and red wire has a partner but the wire that is with it does not.
What are we talking about when we say solenoid? Could someone elaborate?
And it is definatly grounded.
-Chris
What are we talking about when we say solenoid? Could someone elaborate?
And it is definatly grounded.
-Chris
08-12-04, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelFregoe
What year car? Auto or manual tranny? Guage of the wire and number of conductors?
-Chris
08-12-04, 07:41 PM
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88 NA? What the heck is this white/red wire you're talking about?
The large ground (black/yellow stripe if OEM) should go under the upper bolt (or nut)...
The other large cable should go on the left terminal of the starter solenoid (large stud on the thingy at the top of the starter)....
The other small "jumper" wire should come from the starter body, and go to the right small stud on the solenoid...
That should be it...
The large ground (black/yellow stripe if OEM) should go under the upper bolt (or nut)...
The other large cable should go on the left terminal of the starter solenoid (large stud on the thingy at the top of the starter)....
The other small "jumper" wire should come from the starter body, and go to the right small stud on the solenoid...
That should be it...
08-12-04, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WAYNE88N/A
88 NA? What the heck is this white/red wire you're talking about?
The large ground (black/yellow stripe if OEM) should go under the upper bolt (or nut)...
The other large cable should go on the left terminal of the starter solenoid (large stud on the thingy at the top of the starter)....
The other small "jumper" wire should come from the starter body, and go to the right small stud on the solenoid...
That should be it...
The large ground (black/yellow stripe if OEM) should go under the upper bolt (or nut)...
The other large cable should go on the left terminal of the starter solenoid (large stud on the thingy at the top of the starter)....
The other small "jumper" wire should come from the starter body, and go to the right small stud on the solenoid...
That should be it...
-Chris
08-12-04, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WAYNE88N/A
88 NA? What the heck is this white/red wire you're talking about?
The large ground (black/yellow stripe if OEM) should go under the upper bolt (or nut)...
The other large cable should go on the left terminal of the starter solenoid (large stud on the thingy at the top of the starter)....
The other small "jumper" wire should come from the starter body, and go to the right small stud on the solenoid...
That should be it...
The large ground (black/yellow stripe if OEM) should go under the upper bolt (or nut)...
The other large cable should go on the left terminal of the starter solenoid (large stud on the thingy at the top of the starter)....
The other small "jumper" wire should come from the starter body, and go to the right small stud on the solenoid...
That should be it...
Like he said!!!! LOL. It is pretty straightforward
08-12-04, 07:48 PM
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All right, you may have some tranny switch wires that are tripping you out...Look around for any bullet connectors coming from the aft side of the tranny itself- some may have "stayed" on the other side...If you didn't connect your neutral switch wiring, that might explain your probs...
08-12-04, 08:23 PM
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Warning: Large pics. Sorry...
Does anybody know where this goes?
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
This is the wire I am talking about, it has no friend...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
Here is what the rest looks like.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
Does anybody know where this goes?
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
This is the wire I am talking about, it has no friend...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
Here is what the rest looks like.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
08-12-04, 08:56 PM
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Yup That 1st pic w/ the hose os for your Charcoal canister I believe.
Those red/white wires are extra/tranny wires. They don't have anything to do with starting.
I don't even have a 5th gear/reverse switch in my tranny and it runs fine(although no back up lights
)
The starter has 3 wires in it's system.
You have the huge Black wire with yellow stripe.
This connects to the engine block like it's shown in your pic.
Then there is the positive cable which connects to a big bolt on the starter solenoid.
MAKE SURE THE POSITIVE DOESN:T TOUCH THE SIDES OF THE STARTER OR YOU WILL HAVE A FIRE!!!! I kNOW!!!
The next wire is a small single with a little clip style end on it.
It will plug into a small protruding clip on the Starter Solenoid.
This wire is the one which tells the starter to go into run mode(Reference wire).
This is what gets voltage when you turn the keys.
I had a starter with a bad solenoid and it would randomly work. I bought a remanufatured one from Checker and it worked instantly.
Those red/white wires are extra/tranny wires. They don't have anything to do with starting.
I don't even have a 5th gear/reverse switch in my tranny and it runs fine(although no back up lights
)The starter has 3 wires in it's system.
You have the huge Black wire with yellow stripe.
This connects to the engine block like it's shown in your pic.
Then there is the positive cable which connects to a big bolt on the starter solenoid.
MAKE SURE THE POSITIVE DOESN:T TOUCH THE SIDES OF THE STARTER OR YOU WILL HAVE A FIRE!!!! I kNOW!!!
The next wire is a small single with a little clip style end on it.
It will plug into a small protruding clip on the Starter Solenoid.
This wire is the one which tells the starter to go into run mode(Reference wire).
This is what gets voltage when you turn the keys.
I had a starter with a bad solenoid and it would randomly work. I bought a remanufatured one from Checker and it worked instantly.
08-12-04, 09:02 PM
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First pic is your breather hose, like Michael said...
The second pic may be your oil thermo switch connector, which may not be on the oil pan anymore (especially if the other wire in that harness goes to the low oil level switch on the left side of the oil pan there). Look at the oil pan- are there two sensors sticking out? If only one, then that connector has no home, just as you said....
Looks like the tranny wiring is good...Might want to get a tie-wrap or two and bundle up the loose wires so they won't be blowing all over the place during driving...
Digi- your backup lights don't use the 5th/rev switch, they have a seperate reverse switch, on the left side of the tranny (at least on S4 NA's)
The second pic may be your oil thermo switch connector, which may not be on the oil pan anymore (especially if the other wire in that harness goes to the low oil level switch on the left side of the oil pan there). Look at the oil pan- are there two sensors sticking out? If only one, then that connector has no home, just as you said....
Looks like the tranny wiring is good...Might want to get a tie-wrap or two and bundle up the loose wires so they won't be blowing all over the place during driving...
Digi- your backup lights don't use the 5th/rev switch, they have a seperate reverse switch, on the left side of the tranny (at least on S4 NA's)
08-12-04, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Digi7ech
Yup That 1st pic w/ the hose os for your Charcoal canister I believe.
Those red/white wires are extra/tranny wires. They don't have anything to do with starting.
I don't even have a 5th gear/reverse switch in my tranny and it runs fine(although no back up lights)
The starter has 3 wires in it's system.
You have the huge Black wire with yellow stripe.
This connects to the engine block like it's shown in your pic.
Then there is the positive cable which connects to a big bolt on the starter solenoid.
MAKE SURE THE POSITIVE DOESN:T TOUCH THE SIDES OF THE STARTER OR YOU WILL HAVE A FIRE!!!! I kNOW!!!
The next wire is a small single with a little clip style end on it.
It will plug into a small protruding clip on the Starter Solenoid.
This wire is the one which tells the starter to go into run mode(Reference wire).
This is what gets voltage when you turn the keys.
I had a starter with a bad solenoid and it would randomly work. I bought a remanufatured one from Checker and it worked instantly.
Those red/white wires are extra/tranny wires. They don't have anything to do with starting.
I don't even have a 5th gear/reverse switch in my tranny and it runs fine(although no back up lights
)The starter has 3 wires in it's system.
You have the huge Black wire with yellow stripe.
This connects to the engine block like it's shown in your pic.
Then there is the positive cable which connects to a big bolt on the starter solenoid.
MAKE SURE THE POSITIVE DOESN:T TOUCH THE SIDES OF THE STARTER OR YOU WILL HAVE A FIRE!!!! I kNOW!!!
The next wire is a small single with a little clip style end on it.
It will plug into a small protruding clip on the Starter Solenoid.
This wire is the one which tells the starter to go into run mode(Reference wire).
This is what gets voltage when you turn the keys.
I had a starter with a bad solenoid and it would randomly work. I bought a remanufatured one from Checker and it worked instantly.
I dunno what the hell is going on... why wont this thing turn over? Any suggestions 'cause I'm getting nothing. The car has gas. The battery is charged and I even jumped it. The starter motor sounds like it's turning but nothing is happening... I just don't know what else to look for. My fan and stuff does not turn when I turn on the ignition. I'm not sure what that means if anything...
-Chris
08-12-04, 09:06 PM
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Make sure that ground wire is bolted down tight to a CLEAN metal-to-metal connection...And if you put it on the starter side (under the nut), make sure your starter-to-tranny metal-to-metal contact is CLEAN...
Also make sure you didn't blow your main fuse (in the engine bay)...
Also make sure you didn't blow your main fuse (in the engine bay)...