i have 2 s5 turbo motors and i want to get one rebuilt so i know its reilble before i turbo my car. one is whole and the other one is in pieces. i just want to get one built with a street port. i live near Toronto Canada and i am having trouble finding shops. i am willing to ship the motor if i have to. i just wondering if you guys could give me some prices and maby some links..
Thanks

P.s any one want to by a turbo civic thats gonna fund my project lol

 

Generally it'll be $1000-1500ish for the rebuild and a couple hundred more for the port, assuming all the parts (housings, plates, rotors) are re-usable.

 

There is a good rotary scene in Ottawa but I have no idea about Toronto. Your best bet would be to post in the Canadian section.

 

You get what you pay for. Yes there are people doing bargain or budget rebuilds...but in the long run spending $1200 or $1500 on a budget rebuild will come back to haunt you when it only lasts 10K or 20K miles (or what ever the equivalent in KM's is).

 

Email these guys, Jim and Darryl are awesome:

http://rotarydynamics.ca/

They are in Oakville.

 

No interest in the turbo civic here

http://atkinsrotary.com are good friendly people.

john ny

 

You also can try mazdee's in pickering ontario.

 

alright thats perfect thanks!

 

The only difference between a $1300.00 rebuild and a $3500.00 rebuild is usually just rotor housings($1200.00) and an additional $1000.00 reaming .

OP there are several great choices here in the states but shipping would likely be about $250.00 each direction which will add $5-600.00 on to your rebuild price. So if you can find a place local to you with a good reputation and the build is around $2k or less you are probably in good hands.

Edit: If you send me your engine and want a streetport the starting price would be $1500.00 plus any damaged hard parts that need replaced(rotors/housings/irons). I pretty much replace all the same seals/parts all the other shops who charge 2-3x my price replace. You get a warranty and everything and I stand by my work.

 

I was more pointing to some of the shops that tend to re-use things like side seals, or a housing with major flaking, or never lap an end plate, no matter how worn (because it looks good enough to them). There are several budget rebuild shops in the states that do that.

 

also depends on if the core is in or out of the car if you took your car to a really good rebuilder and said can you pull my motor rebuild it and put it back in for 1500 they would laugh.If you build a core to last you will generaly spend 1000 on new internal parts and cleaning the old parts alone. 2000- 2500 is more of a reality for a good rebuild but if you feel replacing oil control ring viton,apex seals,gasket set is a good build well ok.But if you build a good solid core and dont cut corners you will spend some $ but you wont be like alot of people posting a thread about how your motor just blew with only 3500 miles on it do it right or dont do it

 

We have people drive engines down to us from Ontario all the time. Saves a lot on shipping.

 

yes my motor is already out so that saves me some $$.. do u think i should do a rebuild or am i better to get a JDM motor in a crate?

 

i say get a rebuilt.

I have heard horror stories about people buying JDM motors to find that they don't work.
Know a case of a guy buying a motor to find it was missing an apex seal.

Doubt you want to take that chance.

 

yea buying JDM is 50/50 on gettin a good one, i have also heard alot of stories about people getting crap engines, me on the other hand, i bought one and it ran great, did for a while, knowing i was neglecting a proper tune, but anyways,, i would rebuild yours so that way you know you are getting a good fresh engine, just my input.

 

im about to rebuild my 2morrow since many shops dont have work u should look around ur area im paying 900bucks just to replace the oil seals or 1500 for all seals

 

JDM engines are not new "crate" motors, they are Japanese junkyard engines. You have the same luck of getting a good one as pulling one out of a car in your local re-cycler. J-specs should not be installed without rebuilding first.

 

Yeah from what my friends have experienced with J-Specs its really hit or miss. If I were to buy one I'd rebuild it myself or have a reputable shop do it.

 

Just out of curiosity, if you where to local buy a jdm engine and do a compression test on it, wouldn't that tell you if the engine was good or not?

only asking because i heard you can do a compression test on a pulled out rotery engine.

 

Compression test does not tell you anything about the coolant seals or oil control seals...getting the engine up to 250ish rpm out the car is not that easy. You can verify that the apex seals are intact but that is about it.

 

thanks, yeah i meant to verify if the apex seals where good. since if i'm not mistaken that can be the most expensive part of a rebuilt. If an apex seal blows it can damage the rotor housing and the rotor itself. i could be wrong though :P

 

Better to rebuild with NEW PARTS than buy JDM junkyard motor (crap), its rare to find a GOOD JDM motor without one of the chambers being blown. However if you rebuild the correct way i.e. "New Parts" it will be cheaper to buy a new car (not literaly, but very expensive).

As always you get what you pay for...

Just my opinion based on the experience of myself and friends in the Rotary community it is NOT a debate!!!

 

I got my Motor from Sunrise jdm outta montreal, my engine came with tons of goodies,like garrett hybrid, os giken twin disk, and lots more... i put almost 10k kms on it last summer, made 313whp 289ft-lbs
they have 100% customer satisfaction/ and start up warranty, they only warranty the engine internals on rataries for 15 days now so you should try to get everything ready so you can get some run time on the motor to make sure everything holds up good
i also got a KLZE from them 4 years ago thats still holdin strong, alot of those jdm motors have problems with the spring retainers breaking

1-800-233-1299 give them a call and see what they have atleast

i'd wired the s5 motor in a S4 and had my injectors backwords at first and found out the jdm ecu doesnt fire the rear rotor, my engine had started up with nothin conected to the TB on one rotor and the secondaries running as primaries i was just workin on getting fuel and spark and it fired up caught me off guard, it still has perfect comp, i started it up last week -12C hadn't been started for over 3 weeks, fired up within a second of cranking

 

How much does it run you to build from new parts?

 

I think Mazdatrix wants 7000-8000 for a rebuild with all new parts.

Another option pretty soon will be remans from Mazda which frequently include a number of new parts (bit of a crapshoot though). They are in the process of switching all their US reman operations to the central facility in Richmond, VA. The builders have been trained by master rotary techs there. That place currently handles all the Rx-8 Renesis motors and is now starting to do REW's soon. I know they actually had a few brand new REW's from Mazda in stock recently.