rear mounted turbo
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rear mounted turbo
interesting concept...but this would have a lot of turbo lag
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742
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Originally Posted by Travelintrevor
interesting concept...but this would have a lot of turbo lag
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742
wonder how they are doing the oil lines? more of a PITA i think than required, however probably wouldn't require an intercooler due to location....
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well to answer your quastion. i doubt it... sts makes these for cameros and stuff and they work great ill see if i can find a link but they use dual ball bearing turbos ... but this says its using a stock turbo from a turbo 2... so i cant imagine piping all those lines efficently... also lag really isnt that bad because u dont use an intercooler the flowing air over the lenght of the car cools it enough. but notice the pics... ones a truck, and the other is a fwd... so theres no pics of it on the car... and the last actual pic is soulassassins if im correct... it could work... but i doubt it, maybe if the guy had pics and vids of it on a 7 id buy it but =P the real deal is here http://ststurbo.com/ and if u look around u can find the pics he used on there... under civic/integra and tundra. bogus
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read some of the articles on the website.. looks promising. not polished, but promising. id like to see some direct comparison tests with traditional setups in the same price bracket..
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Produce 5psi If you up the boost without proper tuning you may blow The rear seal in the engine. I have tested this kit for 2 years in the making and it runs perfect at 5psi.
And if you've tested the kit for two years, why dont you actually have a picture of it? :p
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Also consider that the official website has a whole wad of made up statistics and graphs. I wouldnt trust buying a replacement lightbulb from that place.
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I've always thought about creating a box in the rear passenger bin that could hold a "Mid Mount" turbo.
just have a door on the box also so you can easilly access from inside the car.
althought I would probably never do it, that would make it just that much closer to the engine!. and it's a good place with lots of room.
I suggest the sealed steel box, because it would reduce noise, fumes and prevent exploding things from hitting you while drving
just have a door on the box also so you can easilly access from inside the car.
althought I would probably never do it, that would make it just that much closer to the engine!. and it's a good place with lots of room.
I suggest the sealed steel box, because it would reduce noise, fumes and prevent exploding things from hitting you while drving
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I've seen a rear-mounted turbo make some decent power on a Camaro (they dyno'd it on Horsepower TV I think ) and lag apparently wasn't really an issue. I don't know how well it would work on a rotary though, especially using the stock turbo. Cool idea though.
Wouldn't you be worried about someone stealing your turbo? I know I would...
Wouldn't you be worried about someone stealing your turbo? I know I would...
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Pshh, no one would steal that turbo, who knows if it is there?
Also, on the sanity of a rear mounted turbo: turbos like using heat to create power, you want them close to the engine. The catalytic converter makes heat, maybe stick it behind the cat?
Also, on the sanity of a rear mounted turbo: turbos like using heat to create power, you want them close to the engine. The catalytic converter makes heat, maybe stick it behind the cat?
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$2800 LOL, dude for 2800 you buy a jdm 13bt and streetport it and rebuild it. What a waste of money but good/unusual concept. I'm sure it works, but why waste $2800 on 5psi? That'd jump an NA to what like 190 at the flywheel.
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i have seen it in person on a s10. it atcually was not that bad. the cut a hole in the bed for the filter to go up and get it away from the dirt. I dont remember the HP #s but there was little lag. I have a WRX and I have a front mount. there is almost 10' of piping on all that. the only problem they have with the rear mounted turbo is the heat loss and oil. on that s10, they had to put an electric oil pump because the s10's pump could not handle the extra flow.
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where talking about the concept of it, not the price, no one would buy that ****,.. but i am sure one of us might want to build our own, and i saw the episode were they used a rear mounted turbo on a camero, i was like damn, but i dont thing i have enough room for it lol
impressive numbers tho...
impressive numbers tho...
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I don't think it's really all that impressive. It seems more like a cheap hack then a reliable alternative to mounting a turbo. The lag would be bad and it would also be really loud. You would have to use a strait piece of pipe from the manifold back to keep the pressure up and then no mufflers...it seems like a waste to me.
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works great on camaros and most of the vehicles STS has put them on, even an integra. Sure beats the hell out of trying to get the setup in an fbody underhood area. Trucks use it b/c it's an easy bolt on/off that you could uninstall in 3hrs or so. We've got a guy in Greenville with the STS kit on his Silverado, does really well.
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What I don't get is why we would even want to do this? It totally destroys the advantage of strong exhaust pulses from the rotary, and our engine bay is big enough to mount most any turbo you could ever want (lots more space up front then out back).
And I can't believe that lag is not an issue. Maybe not for straight line, but try running that on a road or autox course.
And the exhuast energy loss from piping that large must be significant.
And I can't believe that lag is not an issue. Maybe not for straight line, but try running that on a road or autox course.
And the exhuast energy loss from piping that large must be significant.
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lag isn't an issue, not with the setups that are sold for larger engines. The STS integra still gets full boost by 3000rpm and 2-3psi at throttle tip-in below 3000. On a rotary? Probably a completely different story. i agree that the key there would be 2.5in piping and small charge piping to keep velocity up.
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yeah, but you are all leaving out the best advantage. it could put down over 200 at the wheels if put on an n/a, and you could keep telling everyone it's n/a. oh yeah, that and the obvious wieght distribution advantage
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Originally Posted by rayden
yeah, but you are all leaving out the best advantage. it could put down over 200 at the wheels if put on an n/a, and you could keep telling everyone it's n/a. oh yeah, that and the obvious wieght distribution advantage