Rear brakes stuck
Rear brakes stuck
Hey, i have an 88 rx7 and right as i started to leave work i made a hard brake at a stop light and the rear brakes are now locked up now and i can't move the car.
I had a truck pull me back into the parking lot and the front wheels turned fine and i didn't hear any grinding. The rears however didn't move and just skid across the pavement. The left rear would move a little bit but then lock up again
I can press the brake pedal in an inch or 2 till it becomes very stiff. Pulling the e brake feels weird too.
Any ideas on what i can do to unstuck/fix them so i can take the car back home?
I had a truck pull me back into the parking lot and the front wheels turned fine and i didn't hear any grinding. The rears however didn't move and just skid across the pavement. The left rear would move a little bit but then lock up again
I can press the brake pedal in an inch or 2 till it becomes very stiff. Pulling the e brake feels weird too.
Any ideas on what i can do to unstuck/fix them so i can take the car back home?
Seized brake caliper(s), probably. BTW, should have had a tow truck use dollies to raise the rear also. Your tires are prolly flat spotted now.
edit: you asked what to do...if your calipers are seized and you can't replace them in the parking lot, you're basically down to having it towed. You prolly need to have your calipers rebuilt...but it's more cost effective to get rebuilt/reman ones from Rockauto.com IMHO because even if you know how, it takes a bit of work. Plus with rebuilt/reman ones you'll also have a good working parking brake mechanism (part of the caliper assy), which is prolly bad on the ones you have right now.
edit: you asked what to do...if your calipers are seized and you can't replace them in the parking lot, you're basically down to having it towed. You prolly need to have your calipers rebuilt...but it's more cost effective to get rebuilt/reman ones from Rockauto.com IMHO because even if you know how, it takes a bit of work. Plus with rebuilt/reman ones you'll also have a good working parking brake mechanism (part of the caliper assy), which is prolly bad on the ones you have right now.
Seized brake caliper(s), probably. BTW, should have had a tow truck use dollies to raise the rear also. Your tires are prolly flat spotted now.
edit: you asked what to do...if your calipers are seized and you can't replace them in the parking lot, you're basically down to having it towed. You prolly need to have your calipers rebuilt...but it's more cost effective to get rebuilt/reman ones from Rockauto.com IMHO because even if you know how, it takes a bit of work. Plus with rebuilt/reman ones you'll also have a good working parking brake mechanism (part of the caliper assy), which is prolly bad on the ones you have right now.
edit: you asked what to do...if your calipers are seized and you can't replace them in the parking lot, you're basically down to having it towed. You prolly need to have your calipers rebuilt...but it's more cost effective to get rebuilt/reman ones from Rockauto.com IMHO because even if you know how, it takes a bit of work. Plus with rebuilt/reman ones you'll also have a good working parking brake mechanism (part of the caliper assy), which is prolly bad on the ones you have right now.
Well i got it towed today back to my house. From looking around a little more i think it might be the emergency brake as it feels weird to pull it and it's only the rear wheels. I just don't see how a hard stop could cause it so it still might as well be the calipers.
Thanks you for the info!
the e brake mechanically applies the rear calipers, the pedal hydraulically applies the SAME calipers. you need two rear calipers.(10 year ase master tech, 14 rotary cars, trust me.)
Thanks for the tips, i'll give this a try if it isn't the e brake cable.
it's not going to be the e brake. unless you pulled it immediately before this ocurred. he is saying that the e brake is a SEPERATE mechanical connection. that is the whole reason for an e brake. if the hydraulics fail, you have a mechanical means of stopping the vehicle.
only possibilities are seized piston, slider, or internally collapsed hose
only possibilities are seized piston, slider, or internally collapsed hose
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Not quite. The emergency/parking brake is a mechanical connection, but it works on the caliper. It is not completely separate on cars with rear brake calipers of our type (there are other types). Yes, in terms of moving the piston, if the hydraulic system fails you can still use the parking brake, all else working fine, but problems in one can affect the other.
The e/p brake pulls on a lever at the caliper, which rotates a cam, which pushes a pin, which pushes on the piston.
When a caliper is seized, you can release the tension on the parking brake, but the piston will stay out.
Also, there's a bearing where the lever rotates around a separate bore in the caliper, and a lot of times that gets seized too.
edit: just clarifying the relationship between the mechanical and hydraulic portion of the caliper. In OP's case, it is indeed most likely a seized piston.
The e/p brake pulls on a lever at the caliper, which rotates a cam, which pushes a pin, which pushes on the piston.
When a caliper is seized, you can release the tension on the parking brake, but the piston will stay out.
Also, there's a bearing where the lever rotates around a separate bore in the caliper, and a lot of times that gets seized too.
edit: just clarifying the relationship between the mechanical and hydraulic portion of the caliper. In OP's case, it is indeed most likely a seized piston.
i understand, yes. i just finshed rebuilding my rears, in fact. they are connected, yes. not like a drum hat or anything. was just stating that the e brake must be an alternative to the hydraulic system in the event of a hydraulic failure.
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