uZurper

Hrmmm, I'm not sure that's a fair statement. I agree partially that some FC owners are cheap - but that doesn't necessarily mean our support for aftermarket parts should be void of any quality. If anything, DRIVING anything (pistons, no pistons, four wheels, stock, modded, etc.) is EXPENSIVE. I don't know about you, but I pay for every single dollar myself, and I still need to come up with rent, tuition and daily living expenses. The only reason why I have a project car is because I work like a beast! Geez, "bitching about price" means only one thing in the macro economic sense: the manufacturers are making TOO much money and it's not worth it! (Does anyone like to overpay for anything?.. hrmm.. no..)

So if there is a shortcut in making some "Home Depot" parts - then I'd consider it (provided that it would be useful )- don't sit there and tell me that you wouldn't take a shortcut if it fit your best interests...

I do believe that the Japanese aftermarket buyers are much more informed than their American (Canadian?) counterparts. Just look at the media available here - craptastic hollywood feature films, more rice magazines (sold) than tuner magazines (sold). But more importantly, most of us North Americans (I'm assuming here) don't need the *extreme high quality* that j-tuners provide through their parts/upgrades. Some are more into *looks* than *function*... (anyone seen a rap video recently?) We need to get educated... hell, I'm a rotorhead 'coz I completely agree with the "no pistons" idea...

edomund

Dude I spent $1300 not 2gs!

Second I didn't call you cheap. I said many are cheap you cant deny that, look at all the past threads of people trying to make parts for the FC.
Why do think the FD has so much more support, they are willing to spend money.

It's not fiberglass either. It's FRP.

It's not useless by any means.
Amemiya is the most repected maker for rx7 in the world they kno their ****. They are the only ones being competitive in the JGTC with no factory support.

My underhood temps are super low. It vents air directly to my TID and sucks major air into the breaks and radiator. It is a very well desiged piece of work.
I'm sure you have never seen one so dont comment on something you know absolutley nothing about!

All I 'm saying is support the people who create parts for our cars, they are rare, not the people who steal ideas and parts.

Carl Byck

Copies, and more copies, eat your heart out EDDY, I am building a race car and do not require, nor see the importance, in having the original (assuming similar quality), What makes you think there are not hundreds of COPIES of your kit running around the streets of Tokoyo? When their is a legitimate quality difference, buyers then have a choice, you get what you pay for, and if you can pay less for the same product, and choose not to, you are just not very smart, or your pocket book allows you latitude most owners of 3000.00 FCs don't have.
I suppose you would rather see no FCs on the road, and every one loose interest in this car due to lack of parts availability, than see a copy of an overpriced kit on the road. To respond to my comments will only make you look more foolish, regards, Carl

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=20637

gotdatfiyah

www.kleenex.com wipe the tears.

NZConvertible

Absolutely no way. How many racers would spend a bunch of money on something that has no effect of performance? None. This piece is purely for looks, just like most body accessories on the market. On a product that is going to be used almost entirely on street cars, lighting that is worse than stock is unacceptable at any price.
The engine bay is completely seperated from the front of the car by the car's steel body. The only way air can get in is via the radiator or from underneath. Unless you've been cutting metal, I can't see how changing the nose could have any effect on underbonnet temps.
You're right. The FC is now an old car, which means it's a cheap car. Spending more than the value of the car on a body kit doesn't make much sense, so cheaper alternatives will always have a place in the market.

hIGGI

iTrader: (7)

fitting on mine now ;o)

http://rx7cz.net/photos/workshop46/

j200pruf

iTrader: (4)

Higgi, are you a "cheap ***" like me or is that the real deal?

hIGGI

iTrader: (7)

real deal from inukai (RE-A)

edomund

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Absolutely no way. How many racers would spend a bunch of money on something that has no effect of performance? None. This piece is purely for looks, just like most body accessories on the market. On a product that is going to be used almost entirely on street cars, lighting that is worse than stock is unacceptable at any price.

Have you seen the kit?
It is not just a nose. The air comes in through two vents where the orginal lights were. Sort of like the fresh headlights effect.
I have my air cleaner, custom TID, right where the air comes in and plan on making cold air box that will make even better use of it.

Anyway I'm done arguing with you guys about this it's pointless. I'll agree to disagree, truce.
I wasn't trying to offend you guys only say my opinion on supporting companies that create the products.

BTW his is real you can tell the real ones are white when shipped and they have the blue shrink wrap on the headlights.

edomund

Higgi I got mine from Inukai also, I picked it up in SF.
He's a good guy.

Do you have his new email adress?
If so could you send it to me PM.

cymfc3s

Obviously you don't work with fiberglass much. Its not a piece of stamped steel that comes flying out of press. There is a difference between replicas and the real thing, this is a FACT. If its cheaper, its for good reason.
So, if you don't have 2k to spend on a bumper, dont get the bumper. Whats the problem?
Oh, and i CAN justify spending 2g's for a bumper. You know why? BECAUSE I CAN! Its a tiny, microscopic drop in the bucket compared to what ive put in the car. If you want to do a car right, you have to spend money. Period.

cbrock

iTrader: (1)

Well, most times, those prices are inflated for the name, then there are the exchange rates, and worry about shipping it across the pond...etc..etc. If the replica is of similar quality, then why not. Most times, even the name brand stuff needs a little tweaking here and there to fit right.

AngelSlide

replicas are usually sprayed fiberglass where as re's are probably hand laid. Difference is the strength hand laid products tend to be thinker and hold together better. Also tend to fit better than sprayed fiber replicas. Still 2000 is still kinday high i though it was polyurethane actually.. But to each his own.

gotdatfiyah

cymfc3s

Poly would be awesome! I think its not cost prohibitive to make them in polyurethane or else you would think there would be alot more out there.

West TX RX-7

What headlamps did you use and what did you use to cut out the bumper so they would fit? Any progress pictures of the stages? Thats a corksport bumper right?

JonEQuest

OK, forget about cars for a minute, EVERYTHING that was invented in America has been ripped off by aisan companies and reproduced cheaply then sold here and it kills our economy. I work for a national company and one of our products has been completely copied and being sold over here under a different name. Our copyright laws mean nothing over there so IMO Mr. Aemimya can suck it up like the rest of us......after all it IS just fiberglass. And at $2000 or even $1600 it is overpriced. My WHOLE kit was about $900 and the quality was just fine, I did do my own lights but versus $2000 for JUST the front bumper $900 for the whole kit made making the lights worth it.

edomund

cymfc3s your car is nice man, congrats.
The kit looks great.
I'll post mine when it's painted.

Again I say it's not fiberglass.
It's FRP (fiberglass reinforced polyurethane) hand laid. It flexes unlike fiberglass but super strong with the fiber laid in there.

uZurper

I guess it all boils down to *quality.* You pay more for higher quality, and less for lower quality. It all depends on your needs - economics much?

Btw, gotdatfiyah - your last post just made my day! Ha!

2ndGen.rocket

ok, so if it is a little bit stronger, then your bumper will crack when you hit something at 10mph, and mine will crack when I hit something at 7mph. Big F'in deal. It's still way overpriced.

JonEQuest

.....and since I reinforced the f___ out of my cheap one it won't crack till 15-20 mph. It would probably bend the fenders first. :-)

Zero Cylinder

you CAN keep flip up lights with this correct?

also, all the pics ive seen are WAY up close, anyone have any pics of it.....say where the whole car fits in the pic/

j200pruf

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There would be a LOT of work to keep flip up lights with the RE front cowl, it is made with the sleek head lights incoperated into the bumper.

2ndGen.rocket

JonE, how exactly did you do that? I have the Corksport Border replica sitting in my garage right now (im waiting to source the skirts and rear of a GP Sports kit before I install or paint anything), And I really like the look of yours. How much cutting and bondo went into the healights that you did? Im kind of hesitant at just hacking away at the bumper.

Zero Cylinder

thanks, i was actually considering buying it until i saw those pics.