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Old 06-02-02, 07:19 PM
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i am searching for any comments or help on the best total turbo system upgrade on the market. i am talking everything, intercooler, turbo, wastegate, blow off valve, and any thing else. i would like to go with the same "brand" for all of the components is possible, but if someone knows of a better combo of parts, lemme know. any help is appreciated
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hmm quickest easiest and best would be the Greddy system, only expect to pay $3k (or more)
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are there any other total system upgrades? i am not worried with the price because if nothing else fails i can buy it piece by piece and then install the entire system at one time
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Custom is almost always the best way for turbo upgrades. It won't be the quickest, or easiest, but will be the best most times, and often times cheaper (if you just look at whats included kit vs custom).
Cheaper, more efficient, better suiting to what you want, and no hard times fitting piping (cause it will be made for your engine bay). Along with saying its CUSTOM!

I would personally get a Standalone (your choice on type, haltech if you're tight on $$$ but I'd get the EFI system to best fit what you want, this should not be a money limited part of your project) if going for a full out turbo upgrade, and also go with a TiAL wastegate and BOV, probably some flavor of T04.
You can get cast iron turbo manifolds (T04) for cheap (HKS and Greddy, however they have wastegate flanges for their wastegate unless it fits other WG's, about $250-$350 average for manifold), as for intercooler I would go custom, or go the cheap way with a junkyard FMIC (Small Isuzu NPR FMIC) and custom piping and maybe custom endtanks if needed.
Then get custom downpipe to your exhaust unless you're getting a new exhaust, and you will probably need new fuel injectors and a new fuel pump.
There are more parts, but those are the basics and my suggestions.

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Standalone? what is that? and why should that not be a tight part of the upgrade? youa re saying that greddy and hks take their propriatary manifolds?

i have stock injectors and a high rate fuel pump, so i should go with better injectors? how big are factory injectors?
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If you plan on running more boost then you will want more fuel. I'd say 9 or 10 psi is the max for the stock injectors without leaning out to bad. The stock injector size is 550cc in your primaries and secondaries. With higher boost than mentioned above I'd go 680s primary and 720s in the secondaries and regulate em using a Apex'i AFC. I think that sounds right, if Im wrong then someone please correct me cause I dont want to send anyone wrong info.
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No, you're on the right track.
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i have my secondary 1200cc from rcengineer.
hey forsaken, what is your setting on you SAFC?
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Originally posted by RiceRocket
Node,

Standalone? what is that? and why should that not be a tight part of the upgrade? youa re saying that greddy and hks take their propriatary manifolds?

i have stock injectors and a high rate fuel pump, so i should go with better injectors? how big are factory injectors?
Standalone Electronic Fuel Management. Haltech, or Autronic, or MoTeC, and there are many others. It is a computer that controls you engine (fuel injection by many different variables, and can also control more than just fuel). They are expensive, but your car will never be smoother with one, and you can add any parts, go for a drive and just adjust your fuel map if you feel comfy making minor changes yourself. Check out the EFI Forum.
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actually the best turbo for the money is the hybrid. The stock turbo with a t04 wheel can produce appx 300-350hp. The nice thing about it is it bolts up just like stock. You dont have to have oil and coolant lines fabbed, or a custom downpipe. The turbo i have right now is amazing. Spools up quick, makes a ton of power. Really friendly, not laggy at all.
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My buddy with an FD swears by the TO4S
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