KiyoKix

Okay this is sort of a wake up call and a rant at the sametime. It's about the MANY people that are complaining on the forum 24-7 about the prices for aftermarket things for the FC. First everyone wants all these companies to make parts for our cars, then when they do they start to sound like whining little bitches (nobody targeted inparticular...but if the shoe fits) about the price of the parts. The biggest thing on the board now is about the True Dual exhaust system from MazdaTrix. Yes it DOES cost $1000+ for the system, and yes you could get something cheaper, but that does NOT mean that it's too expensive. If you wanted a car that was cheap to hook up you should've bought a Honda Civic or something and spend $2000 and finished the freaking car. Do the Ferrari guys cry when they see the price of some of their parts (I'll spare you the numbers so you don't cry more), no they just shell out the money and be happy. If you don't like the price of something then go and make it for yourself (or better yet don't ask us anything and just shop on eBay or something). There's no need to complain about the price of something made for the car just because YOU think it's too expensive. Sure the Bonez Intake costs $150, but they went through the effort of making that for the car because they knew something that nobody else did. They put in the time and they can put in the price. That is another reason why this board is here, if you don't wanna pay for something then just search here for a how to so that you can do it yourself instead, but no that it's easier to just shell out the money for something than make it yourself, so don't complain about how hard it is if you brought it on yourself.

I'm all for doing custom things on my car, but sometimes you have to just shell out the money for parts, if not then nobody will and the companies that we cried to get will just fade away...

1987RX7guy

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WERD!



EDIT Total cost on FC build up ~5000 USD and about 14k more in upgrades planned

Icemark

gotta agree...

And yep, that is why I stopped keeping rebuilt wiper switchs in stock, because no one wanted to pay for what it costs me to fix them and the cost of the switch.

or some of the carbon fiber center dash vents I did. Again people wanted them for next too free. Less than the cost of just to make it.

1987RX7guy

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You think you could do CF radio surrounds? I would pay as ling as it is not like 300 bux. Mine is hella broke and I would not mind having one made of CF.

I would also ask you if you could make it without the radio whole since I have non need for a radio or maybe with a slot where an S-AFC would fit that would be sweet

hypntyz7

I agree wholeheartedly. Back in the day, everybody used to whine about $2000+ rebuild costs. Now that I offer them for almost half that, well, I get business, but I still dont have them lined up at the door like you'd think. People like to talk ****, but when it's time to put up or shut up, well, it gets *real* quiet.

Same for the last conversion I offered for sale. You log onto the forum daily and see all this BS being talked about converting an NA to turbo. "Turbo my NA", this that and the other. Well, I made a whole conversion package, from a stock t2, every necessary part and piece right down to the throttle cable. Priced at $1500 with a running engine. Guess what...no bites. I finally sold it to a non-forum member. The threads I started about it got over 100 views the first few hours, and barely any replies other than "somebody buy this, this is sweet". The **** got real quiet that day.

Bottom line, over half the population of our section of the forum (and most of it as a whole) could be classified as "forum kiddies"...they like to dream, they like to talk a lot of ****, but when the time comes they cant back it up. I try to ignore most of this, but at times they make it hard.

Ryde _Or_Die

This is so true. Quality products cost good money. If you want cheaply(poorly) made products, then you have the wrong car. The enthusiasts on here take time to make quality pieces and as do just about every company that makes parts for our cars. Compare the number of Civics to the number of FCs or even RX7s altogether and its not even funny. So prices will not be the same.

BonsaiRX7

Nice post, so true.

Pinfield357

thanx for bringing this up guys i always said that when i would come about it in the fourm and i usually got flamed for it.

i thank you and i have even more respect for you guys

Josepi

Or instead of complaining about the cost of the system, find ways around it that your wallet can afford.

If you can't afford true duals for your NA, then why not just get uncollected headers and have a shop mandrel bend all the way out to the mufflers.

YakATK

Good post, I totally agree with you. These cars are worth every cent that gets spent on them no matter what it is for.

Only thing about the Ferrari guys just shelling out the money is cause most people that own Ferrari's are rich *** ***** and money tends to be in an abundance for them. But the principle is the same, they don't whine and complain and neither should we.

j9fd3s

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or just leave it stock, not everyone needs to have a race car

mike

BRealistic

It is always easier and cheaper to buy a faster car than to buy a cheap car and make it faster easier. One thing about forums in general that bugz me: Almost 90% of all questions are how to make more horsepower. Well, if you wanted horsepower so bad, why did you buy a Civic dx automatic?
I have day dreams of having my own machine shop where I could work on and make stuff for vehicles- but Kevin's statement is all too true: We like to know that aftermarket widgets exists to make our vehicles way fast for bragging rights, but few people are willing to drop the bux to make it happen on their own vehicles. Look at my situation: I haven't spent a dime on my seven yet (besides a spare trans for insurance), and my next choice is to have it repainted, upgrade the tired suspension, buy new sticky tires (the cheapest option), or upgrade the intake/exhaust. But I have too many other things that need my attention (both financial and my time) for me to spend all my extra cash on my seven.

Rxmfn7

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This coming from a guy with a 20B FC......

importboi22

i couldnt agree more i mean i shoot a price of what i can afford if they dont take it i dont really complain cuz i know someone out there can afford more than i can but anyways im making money by working on hondas beleive it or not there really easy cuz thats all i work on all the time... the only rx7 experience i have is my car... and it still doesnt run rite.. Right now with hondas im starting to pull in business cuz everyone does them... i charge pretty good prices too 100 for a clutch job.... 300 and up for labor on hydro swaps.... 300 drag gen 3 turbo kit installs.... if i had more experience with rx7 i would work on them too but i just have no experiences with them at all hondas are what roam the streets down here in my city... rite now ive spent over 2k in a rebuilt motor and getting everything in and now i have a feeling this motor is a piece of ****..... i cant do anything about it now tho... but i have a feeling very soon as much as i dont want to im going to have to part with my rx7 being only 16 and the very few costumers i get i cannot afford the upkeep of my car and will be switching to a honda for now sorry i just had to vent you guys... its depressing with me walking by my car everyday knowing that i cant work on it cuz i have to work on someone elses car hopefully if its just my CAS i can keep the car.... if not you know the outcome

BRealistic

I guess rotary engine stuff is high because the technology and parts can't be moddified to use with other engines. It is either rotary specific, or piston specific- right?

j9fd3s

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haha, yeah but its a stock 20b!

mike

neofreak

"getting FC owners to spend money/fix things properly on their cars is like trying to squeeze water out of a rock"

and its getting to the point where you can say the same about the new FD owners as well.

l33trx7

REALLY!? You had N/A to Turbo conversion for only 1500 bucks what the **** is wrong with that. If I had known about that I would have bought it from you. I swear. If you have another one in stock sometime drop me a line, I'd be interested. The silver rex needs to move, she's been calling my name for a while That doesn't mean to start buildiong one, I don't have any money right now but i will soon.

88IntegraLS

That's right! This is the Second Gen Lounge. But the other 50% are pretty cool (the experienced FC'ers). I have learned a lot here from them.

Icemark

I have heard that more times than I have fingers and toes.

l33trx7

6k in the bank given as a lone to someone who if I can't trust then I can't trust the world. Being payed back in 500 increments every month. With interest totalling at 250 dollars. In 4 months I'll have the money. NOt might, will. Sorry if I sound defensive, but I don't bull **** when it comes to money. When I say I would buy something by god I would buy it, not have someone spend countless hours at an amazing craft just to get ohh well its sooo expensive. I hate that too. So to those who go through with it MORE POWER TO YOU!!

l33trx7

was this actually a TII motor, or did you turbo an N/A motor?

hypntyz7

IT is everything out of a stock t2. I have another "kit" available, but the engine is toast and must be rebuilt. With the rebuild, paintjob, and streetport, it'll go for $2300 package, or $3k installed. I just did the first one this weekend.

l33trx7

hmmm. That sound really good. Give me some time to think about it. But you may already have a customer. For the installation, I would take the car to you and you right? Or are you a travelling the repairman lol.

skyypilot

WOw, that was some novella written in the first post. It is true, but someone needs to find himself a girlfriend!