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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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possibly justifying a TII hood on a N/A

ok, first off i know im probaly going to get the the TII hood on N/A rice blah blah blah, but i just want to explain a theory i have. here goes;

first and most obvious advantage would be weight savings if you have a steel hood

now whe you put a TII hood on an N/A it seems the majority of air would be directed behind the engine and over and behind the bell housing exiting under the car around the tranny area. now im thinking theat at higher speeds all the air rushing through there would create somewhat of a vaccum, and not nessisarily pull air through the radiator but make it so the air going through it went through it went through with less turbulence. and it would also pull hot air out of the engine bay.

i know it would no be much of a performance increase but mabye improve cooling a little. any way i wanted to prove a point that TII hoods on a n/a could serve a purpose. even if it being small

i want to put a TII hood on my n/a and im not going to be swayed not too because its "rice", its not like im trying to make people think its got a turbo, i just think it looks good.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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What about the increase in frontal area and drag because of the air flow in and over the hood scoop?

And the weight argument is pretty lame. If you really want to save weight you get an aluminum no-turbo hood, which is a couple lbs lighter than the aluminum turbo hood.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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ok so i didnt list the downsides, but it was something floating around in my head and just wanted to post it to see what people think
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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Listen, you don't have to justify yourself one bit. You like the turbo hood? You don't have a turbo? Who gives a > edited for content<

It's YOUR car, do what you want.

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Here is what I think:

You want to put a TII hood on your NA? Do it. There are much ricier things than that. If you like how it looks, fine by me.

Its your car.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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It looks better, do it.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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that and besides they make reverse scoops for the TII hoods. thats what i will do when i go front mount. and damn chimp chill man.

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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thanks for the support guys i know alot of people think it wrong to do so or something, oh well, off to the junkyard to find a decent one
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Listen, you don't have to justify yourself one bit. You like the turbo hood? You don't have a turbo? Who gives a >edited for content<
It's YOUR car, do what you want.
right on brother chimp! by the way i have a TII hood and my car says GTU on the side

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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why do you care? if you want to put it on your car then do it, who cares what people say?

if I wanted to paint my 10AE lime green and purple, I'd do it.. its my car.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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I just like the scoop
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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its your car do it if you want.
however the weight savings idea is lame because some turbo2 hoods are steel, the one on my friend's 87 was steel, and the hood on my 89 gx is an aluminum n/a hood.

but its your car, do what you want, you have to drive it!
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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if you like it do it. ive had a couple of ppl tell me its ricey and you know what i tell them? "**** off" i paid $40 bucks for my TII hood.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Still rice and still tacky. There isn't proof one way or another of the area which air flow would be directed in the engine bay since no one will test it. I already spent time to calculate the amount of weight savings it gives you and its minute not small.

Turbo=turbo hood
non-turbo=no turbo hood
non-turbo+turbo hood=poser


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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Icemark
What about the increase in frontal area and drag because of the air flow in and over the hood scoop?

And the weight argument is pretty lame. If you really want to save weight you get an aluminum no-turbo hood, which is a couple lbs lighter than the aluminum turbo hood.
There is no increase in frontal area unless ofcourse the hood scoop is 3 feet tall. Any additional drag is negligable(sp?) if non exsistent.

The reason Mazda used aluminum is to save weight. Whats so lame about that? The steel hoods were due to the bean counters.

I'm using a TII hood on my N/A car. Does that make me a ricer? I don't think so. I have a Weber sidedraft carb sitting under it.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Still rice and still tacky. There isn't proof one way or another of the area which air flow would be directed in the engine bay since no one will test it. I already spent time to calculate the amount of weight savings it gives you and its minute not small.

Turbo=turbo hood
non-turbo=no turbo hood
non-turbo+turbo hood=poser


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So..I shouldnt put S5 T2 sideskirts on my car, and I should take my sport spoiler off, because after all its not a S5 T2 or a sport..I guess I should remove my S5 N/A gauge cluster from my S4, and the S5 radio surround and tail lights also. Better take those BBS wheels off your car, wouldnt want anyone thinking it was a 'vert! I think you need to de-tune your riceometer a little

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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I'd call you on the tails, skirts, and cluster :p
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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RXmfn7 - are you not making putting a TII engine into your S4 N/A?
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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he does have a point on engine bay heat!! but i think being i have an aluminum hood already im just gonna try putting hood vents on(for heat escape, it does run hot in that area)
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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RXmfn7 - are you not making putting a TII engine into your S4 N/A?
Yes I am..
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Who cares. Stuff like this kills me.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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hate to state something absoultly obvious, but NAs had alum hoods too. I have one. The only reason to have a TII hood is to look like a TII. That hood scoop doesn't do anything for anyone without a top-mount intercooler.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Yeap it boils down to personal oppinion but the facts are at a draw because we don't really know how much it will do for you on a track if anything. But i'll still call you on it if you have no snail. I really don't even like the TII hood it messes with my view I like N/a style hoods the view is much cleaner.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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1987RX7guy,

we all like to do different things to our cars,, i have a turbo II hood on my n/a...but ya know what?? i like it so >edited<! i guess i should pull all my s-5 T-II interior out too ....oh..i have a TII oil filler tube!!! oh god im such a poser ricer!!!

and for your info ...it does keep the top of your motor cooler and creates less turbulance for your radiator if you dont use a shroud and an e-fan....

i think instead of you critisizing what people have on thier cars you need to stick with making your cold air intakes..wich by the way cost me 70 bucks to make and its exactly the same as what you build for 150+ bucks

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