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Old May 18, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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PLEASE, i need clutch help

my clutch pedal goes straight to the floor...

ok, on the tranny, the thing the slave cylinder pushes, its loose... so the slave cylinder is fully extended, and not building up pressure. i put a prybar on that piece and pumped the clutch, and it built pressure, as soon as i released the prybar, lost all pressure.

what does it mean if that piece is loose?

i know the clutch is good because its fairly new, about a year old, and it wasnt slippin or anything..

please help, i need to fix my car by monday....

planning on pulling off my tranny in the morn.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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is that piece like a lever that pushes the clutch in???

im gonna look in fsm

anyone know of a parts fischer rx7?
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Old May 18, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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That piece is not attached in any way, it just sort of sits between the slave (actual) cylinder and the fork.

If you have no pressure in the clutch, check for leaks in the master cylinder, cable, slave cylinder. If you have no leaks then replace the master and slave with OEM quality units.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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its not the slave or master cylinder.. the thing that the slave cylinder pushes isnt where it used to be, it has freeplay and about 1 3/4" of it... so much that the SC is fully extended, and wont extend any more.. what is that, a clutch engaging fork??
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Old May 18, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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help, i need to go do this
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Old May 18, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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The clutch fork sits on a pivot in the bell housing. That pivot is a small screw with a rounded head. There's a wire "fork" inside the clutch fork, that grabs the head of the ball, and keeps the fork in position. Either the clutch fork has slipped off the pivot, or the pivot head has snapped off, like it did to mine. Either way, only fix is to drop the tranny.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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The clutch fork sits on a pivot in the bell housing. That pivot is a small screw with a rounded head. There's a wire "fork" inside the clutch fork, that grabs the head of the ball, and keeps the fork in position. Either the clutch fork has slipped off the pivot, or the pivot head has snapped off, like it did to mine. Either way, only fix is to drop the tranny.
sir, you are awesome... thankyou very much... i will now go drop tranny

EDIT: if it slipped off, would that usually be due to a bent fork?
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Old May 18, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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7ist is right but did you try to check your res for fluid and then bleed it off to see if maybe you have some air in there i would do that before dropping the tranny and if it doesnt work then drop the tranny
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Old May 18, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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first thing i did was bleed the fluid, then changed the slave, so now im at the fork

i gotta go work on it before i run outta time
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Old May 18, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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ok got the tranny bolts out and bout to remove it.

had to take a break cause its like 110 outside
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Old May 18, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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ok tranny is off... and the clutch fork........ is attached!?!?!?! WTF?

it seems to be in good working condition. and my pressure plate is fine also...

what the hell is going on???

please help me
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Old May 18, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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trump, come on guys, help me out, im gonna get pics in a minute
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Old May 18, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Old May 18, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Well..Sorry,first of all..you should have Researched the Problem Further before you went and Pulled the transmission..I am going to Say that the Problem was that your Hydraulics were shot..the Clutch master,and the Slave should have been Looked at Before you even Pulled the trans...Honestly,it sounded like you Lost the Pressure in the Clutch Lines,(no Fluid.leaking Fluid,.bad seal..).and the Clutch Hit the floor,and beacuse it had No pressure,it could not return..But,On the good side,you got to see WTF a Tranny swap is like on an Rx7.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Old May 18, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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so what the **** mayonaisse
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Old May 18, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Old May 18, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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ok narrowed it down to the pressure plate...

anyone ever hear of a pressure plate going out cause i havent

here is whats going on... the clutch fork arm is all loose like the clutch is disengaged but the clutch is actually engaged..

i r confused
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Old May 19, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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taking pressure plate, clutch, and pilot down to CBX to see if they can diagnose my ****.... thanks for no help.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Well..Sorry,first of all..you should have Researched the Problem Further before you went and Pulled the transmission..I am going to Say that the Problem was that your Hydraulics were shot..the Clutch master,and the Slave should have been Looked at Before you even Pulled the trans...Honestly,it sounded like you Lost the Pressure in the Clutch Lines,(no Fluid.leaking Fluid,.bad seal..).and the Clutch Hit the floor,and beacuse it had No pressure,it could not return..But,On the good side,you got to see WTF a Tranny swap is like on an Rx7.
not the hydrolics 100% sure

just took my pressure plate and clutch to CBX

they cant test my pressure plate without flywheel

174.00 for new clutch kit

44.00 for flywheel resurfacing

EDIT: he says i got 40% left on my clutch

also not to be an *******, but if you would have read through, i already said it wasnt hydros
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Old May 19, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Old May 21, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Did it wind up being the pressure plate? I know you probably put it together already....but if not. I would replace your rear main seal, and the 2 seals on the tranny. There's a **** load of oil in your bell housing and behind your flywheel.

Also, judging by that one pic of your clutch and flywheel, it also looks like you need to replace the orings in your oil filter pedestal. That's probably why the drivers side of your motor and the wiring is soaked with oil.
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