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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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This is pissing me off

OK I took my car for a spin and it smoked the whole time and smoked very heavy above 3,000 RPM's so I got back looked under the hood and aroung all the exhaust joints there was raw oil coming out and around the O2 sensor oil was coming out and being burned off of the manifold. So I go lool at the exhaust tips and there is raw oil pooled in both of them. I just removed my rats nest, and the first time I start it up with it gone this happens Could this be the problem or did my car just sh#t on me and call me a bi#%@.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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Maybe it's something to do with your oil injetion system.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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hmm cory where about do u live. i could maybe come over with a few of my rotary friends and take a look at it. until then do the basics. check your oil. do a comp test(never hurts). and dont got on it when its cold. bad oil seals will cause a motor to smoke like that. just dont understand it being so much constint
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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That much oil? Not a chance, either you routed an oil line into your intake, or your oil seals are gone.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 02:53 AM
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Cory, u have TII ? on turbo this will happen if u will close both crankcase vents.....u`ll have pressure in oil pan and oil will be searching its ways out....
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by Cory Simpson
I just removed my rats nest...
So you've had the UIM off, which means disconnecting the OMP actuating rod from the TB. Check it hasn't caught up on something after you reconnected it. If it's held fully open you'll get a lot of oil being injected into the intake.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Well if anyone want to come look at my POS you can come anyyime after 3:30 in the afternoon. I live right next to taget in in the neighborhood called Brookhaven, address 1043. And I have the OMP removed and I am running premix. So the rod can't be suck up. And I have a N/A but I don't know it the crank case is vented it should still be because it still has the charcoal canister, but if that were the case wouldn't it blow the dip stick out. I guess I could try running it with out the oil cap, and see if that helps, but I dought it will. I think I trashed the oil seals in the engine when I tryed to pull it off the other day. And the only reson it wouldn't start was because I had the fuel cut switch turned off. I felt like such a retard when I figured out why it wouldn't start. Ever sense we pulled it off it has been smoking, and getting worse and worse. Now there is just raw oil sitting in the cats (I can hear it sizzleing in the cats) and the car still smokes after it has been shut off. Along with all the oil coming out the mufflers. There's not a ton but it is still enough to make a puddle in the end, also I will do a compression check today and make sure that there is three even snaps. I think my car is just PMSing she's being a heffer.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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I would STRONGLY advise you not to drive your car anywhere or even turn it on until you buy a fire extinguisher and keep it in your car. I just had oil leak onto my exhaust manifold and catch on fire. If I didn't have an extinguisher with me, god only knows how long it would have burned. It still did about $5000 worth of damage, fortunately I have full coverage. (Although I still might have to fight with them if they try to total my baby.)
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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Ill be very surprised if you walk out of that with your car.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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Yeah, these little rice rockets seem to be very used to catching on fire, every time start it I expect to see fire roll from under the hood. The parts car I pulled this motor from caught on fire the first time we started it, due to some gas and oil that went threw the exhaust and leaked into the heat sheilds under the car and caught on fire. And before we bought the car that caught of fire some kid in North Augusta that had it caught the bumper on fire, that thing was a death trap.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Well I just did a compression test, and there doesn't seem to be any real problem. There is three even snaps on both rotors, and the front rotor has about 85 psi, and the back has about 80 psi. I'm still stumped on this one, and running it with out the oil cap didn't seem to help any.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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(I think I trashed the oil seals in the engine when I tryed to pull it off the other day).


what do u mean by that?
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Well I couldn't get the car started with the key so I got my step dad to get on his tractor and pull the car around the neighborhood, and we went about a 1/2 mile and turned around and came back pulling it in first and second gear all the way there and back. Once we got back to the house I was stumped on why it wouldn't start so I pondered on what it was thought the plugs were fouled, put a new set in. Then we hood the tractor back up to the car and we were getting ready to pull it around some more, when I thought about the fuel cut switch under my steering column. I looked at it noticed that the LED on the end wasn't lit up, and I turned it on hit the key and it fired right off. But it has smoked and sputted out oil ever sense, and there seems to be no power loss it actually seems to run stronger I think. Maybe it was just because I hadn't driven it in like a week, and I think it feels stronger. And the funny thing is the car smokes much worse when it is warm than when it is cold. I think it is because the oil in the cats is burning once it heats up.
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 12:30 AM
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Perhaps it is the turbo oil seals. When mine went bad my car smoked quite a bit (not more when it was warm though, that has me stumped).

1.) Take of the pipe goint to you IC and see if there is oil there

2.) If none then pull off the turbo. Plug one of the oil in/outs and blow through the other one. If you hear air seeping out then you have bad oil seals.

Neither of the tests will give you a sure answer that they are NOT blown, but you will know if they are.

-Marques
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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I have a N/A, so the turbo seals can't be bad.
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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oops sorry, didn't read very well i guess.
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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Ahh it doesn't matter when I get home I will take the air compressor and put it in one of the spark plug holes and see if I can hear it coming out the filler neck. Does anyone have a suggested pressure to use, when doing this???
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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Well I just put some air pressure into the dipstick hole and it sounds like it was coming threw the exhaust or intake manifold, but I'm not sure which, and I did that with about 40 PSI. And when I put it on the trailing spark plug hole with about 100-120 PSI it was enough air pressure going in there so that once I turned it around with a ratchet it asmost crack my rist when it kicked around, so that seemed to have good power in the cumbution chamber.
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