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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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pilot bearing seal issue

Hey im having a issue with my pilot bearing seal. I tap it in its fine. But when i go to put my clutch alignment tool on the pilot bearing seal comes out on the tool...how do i make it stay in =(.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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my friend said i might need a seal from mazda instead of like autozone
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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That's probably a good call. I have never had this problem. Are you sure the pilot bearing is forward enough to accurately seat the seal?
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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the bearing is in a good 1" 1/2
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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does any 1 have a part # for mazda, i called them the dude couldnt find the part.....
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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I would ask for someone who knows what their doin cause they shouldnt have any problem pulling it up plus you'll more than likely have to wait a day or two for them to have it shipped to their location
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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i went ahead and called the mazda dealer in my area and found the part number for an 88 non turbo; 188111404A
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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thanks man
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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ugh....I'm catching no breaks, mazda is gonna take almost a week to get and i need it by like monday tuesday latest....idk what to do. Do you really 100% need it? what will happen besides dirt getting in pilot bearing..
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zoneman2
ugh....I'm catching no breaks, mazda is gonna take almost a week to get and i need it by like monday tuesday latest....idk what to do. Do you really 100% need it? what will happen besides dirt getting in pilot bearing..
try to run without it, it will be fun to watch your engine + transmission getting **** up.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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^ Actually, lots of people run without one, its kinda a preference thing. OP: Try www.mazdatrix.com They will likely be able to get you one faster then the dealership.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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^ Actually, lots of people run without one, its kinda a preference thing. OP: Try www.mazdatrix.com They will likely be able to get you one faster then the dealership.
the problem is that those who ran without one, will probably not say anything when their tranny/engine fucked up. cuz if they do, ppl just gona say "hate to say I told you so ~ "

for pilot bearing seals, you might be able to get one from one of the shop that sells Clutch/Flywheel.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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the problem is that those who ran without one, will probably not say anything when their tranny/engine fucked up. cuz if they do, ppl just gona say "hate to say I told you so ~ "
My friend has ran his trans with no pilot bearing seal for a couple years without issues and he has put way more miles on his 7 then I have with my seal in. Maybe people just aren't having massive problems by not running a seal.

And secondly, a pilot bearing failure should not destroy the trans or the engine.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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You can run without the seal, but eventually the grease will migrate out of the pilot bearing, onto the clutch, etc. It may be fine for years, but eventually the bearing will fail.

I don't know why the seal is ending up on your alignment tool. It is quite a tight fit and needs to be pounded in with a hammer. Are you sure you are driving it in correctly? Of course, you could have the wrong seal.

A pilot bearing failure certainly has the potential to damage both the engine (eccentric shaft) and the transmission (input shaft). I've seen input shafts grooved by a bad pilot bearing.
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