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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by Wankel7
Should I have the pill in the line even though I am using a manual boost controller?
That depends on what type of controller you have, there are several types. If it's a bleeder type, there must be a restriction between the turbo and the tee in the line, or it won't have much effect on boost.
BTW, your pic isn't quite right. If the restriction must be before the tee, not after it. See the pic in that link.

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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:39 AM
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Why did you do that? Have you installed another boost controller? You sig doesn't mention one. If not, you've disabled the factory boost control and won't be running as much boost as you should be, nor will it be boosting as quickly as it should be. Did you remove the boost control solenoid as well?
I removed the entire vacuum rack, and I pulled that out with it. I will eventually put it back, but for now I'm trying to get it to run correctly before I worry about higher boost. Yes, the solenoid is removed as well.

I just wanna make sure its not somehow hurting my car for the pill to be there.

Oh, and I have a MBC, just not using it right now. It was in the car when I bought it, and I took it out while working out bugs.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by swoop
I am familiar with that link. If you look at the diagram you will see that the pill slows down the build up of pressure behind the pill.

So what I said is true.
I was referring to your comment that "overall boost will be the same" without the pill. That's incorrect; without the restriction the bleeder won't have much effect on the pressure the wastegate actuator sees, so boost won't be as high as it should be.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by AreExSeven
...for now I'm trying to get it to run correctly before I worry about higher boost.
It doesn't just lift boost, it also brings it in quicker, improving mid-range torque and improving drivability. It's a pretty simple system that shouldn't cause any problems unless you're already over-boosting.
I just wanna make sure its not somehow hurting my car for the pill to be there.
No it won't hurt the car at all, it'll just slow the response of the wastegate slightly. No problem.
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Old May 11, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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Sorry bout the thread from de dead...

NZ,

I just finished and have a stable running Microtech LT-8. One of the neat side effects of the install is the fact that the boost control solenoid ('91) is now not functioning. Would the easy solution be to install a MBC cutting open the old line and reusing the pill?
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Old May 12, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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Does the LT-8 have boost control?

A MBC would be the cheapest option. If you're using a home-made bleeder type then you really need an adjustable restriction to set it up correctly (the link above explains why), so the stock pill is probaly no good. If you using an different type (pressure reg, ball & spring) then no restriction is required.

An EBC is still the better option...
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Old May 12, 2003 | 07:22 AM
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Nope, no boost control built in.

Thanks for the info!
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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
Why did you do that? Have you installed another boost controller? You sig doesn't mention one. If not, you've disabled the factory boost control and won't be running as much boost as you should be, nor will it be boosting as quickly as it should be. Did you remove the boost control solenoid as well?
Like me? My car seems to be plenty quick and powerful with my stock boost controller not working.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by Barwick
Like me? My car seems to be plenty quick and powerful with my stock boost controller not working.
Even though mines boosting low as hell (v. before with the boost solenoid plugged in), it's slower to build boost as well.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Okay, have a simple question again.

If I get a ball and spring MBC, I remove the pill from the line correct?

Can I mount the MBC in the place of the stock s5 boost control solenoid?
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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Old May 14, 2003 | 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by Barwick
My car seems to be plenty quick and powerful with my stock boost controller not working.
It will be quicker and more powerful with it working properly.

What's wrong with it?
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Old May 14, 2003 | 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Josepi
If I get a ball and spring MBC, I remove the pill from the line correct?
You're running new lines, so it's gone anyway.
Can I mount the MBC in the place of the stock s5 boost control solenoid?
Bleeder-type controllers (like the S5's) are teed of the wastegate actuator line. Ball and spring types are inline. This means you essentially need to run new lines from the compressor and wastegate actuator, eliminating the tee and the solenoid.

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