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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Pictures of Koyo radiator and e-fan install

Here's pics of my radiator install. Finished it last month, but I get to play with my mom's new digital camera while I teach her how to use it (I need to buy my own, now that I've used it, I can't go back).

I'm using a Koyo raditato, Perma-Cool 16" e-fan, Perma-Cool e-fan controls, and a Vintage Air fan shroud. Install was pretty straightforward. I had to remove the shroud once, because I din't mold it enough to leave room for the rad hose.



Notice the fan is fused at stock fuse block.





Here's the brass cross that holds the sensors for the temp switch and temp sensor for my VDO water temp gauge.

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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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nice man... man thats a weird neck for the radiator lol
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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It's the way the S5 radiator is, just looks weird because the stock air intake is no longer there.

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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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oh i c that makes sense... nice rad though was it ungodly high $ ?
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Around $300 from Titan Motorsports.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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$350 shipped by Rx7store. That's where I bought mine.

I haven't installed mine yet but plan to this week.

What did the Perma Cool and control cost you?
Also do you know the model number and cost for the Vantage Air shroud?

Ifr it's reasonably priced I'll buy it instead of fabbing my own shroud out of aluminum.

I have a shitty Imperial 16 in efan but had to revert to my stocker. I really don't want to put that shroud back in.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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I bought the fan and controls from Jeg's. Summit had the controls on back order, and I didn't want to wait (even though they ended up sitting in the garage for a couple of months). The fan was $90 and the controls were $60. The sensor is threaded which added $10. They're only $50 if you get the probe type sensor.

The shroud is part number 32033-VFF from Vintage Air. The price was more than I wanted to pay, but I was already on the phone with them and wanted something slightly different anyway. Oh yeah, it was $98 plus shipping.

A few people on the forum have used that shroud. It covers the core just about perfectly (maybe 1/4" max on each side isn't covered, top and bottom - perfect). A little molding was necessary with the heat gun for clearance for the rad hoses. As you can see from the first pic, it's deeper on the driver's side than the passenger side. The shroud is turned on it's side because it's made to fit old school hot rods, which have taller radiators.

This seems a little lengthy, but I like to include lots of details. Hope that all helps. I was very happy with how it turned out. Looks really great.

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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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looks great man
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Koyo on an N/A? Someone going for the overkill
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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your rad looks good, i just want to know if you noticed a good hp gain with the way you have the intake set up, meen not having a box set up around it, in my engine bay it is so hot it seems it would defeat the purpose, i would just like to know
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by BlackRx7
Koyo on an N/A? Someone going for the overkill
Here in AZ I would demand a radiator upgrade on any FC.

Both my FC's were over heating in the summer.

Hopefully my Koyo will keep my new engine nice and cool. Maybe I'll even be able to use the AC!

Hmm.
I'll probably go with the Permacool and either Fiberglass a shroud or rivet together a one in metal.

The koyo is sitting in my garage waiting to be dropped in so I can make a template now. Maybe I'll sell them.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by 86project
your rad looks good, i just want to know if you noticed a good hp gain with the way you have the intake set up, meen not having a box set up around it, in my engine bay it is so hot it seems it would defeat the purpose, i would just like to know
I noticed no increase or decrease. The filter is too big; the relays that mount in the area behind the headlights are now mounted on one of the airbox brackets. I'm going to get a slightly smaller filter and a panel to separate it from the hot air.

As for Koyo on an N/A being overkill, well, could be. I never had any overheating issues with the stock rad, but it was finally leaking. The price was pretty good and if I choose to do track days in the future (never had problems at teh autocross either), I shouldn't have to worry about any overheating. And I do live in Florida, so it stays pretty warm.

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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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i was wondering about the filter cause i have about the same setup and i did not notice anything either, but i am talking to a guy that will weld me a custom air box with a ram air for only 40 bucks, and it has a plate on top to keep out the hot air, thank just wanted to know if i was the only one or not,,,thanks alot man

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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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LOL, I hit 260 water temps at Buttonwillow with my Koyo, I need more cooling.

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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Re: Pictures of Koyo radiator and e-fan install

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Here's the brass cross that holds the sensors for the temp switch and temp sensor for my VDO water temp gauge.

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Ive got a quick question... Why would you tap the sensor here? Is that before the thermostat.. from the looks of that it is the small coolant line which runs behind the Upper Intake Manafold...

Is this a good spot for a sensor??? Im looking to find a spot for my water temp gauge, but I don't think im ready to pull the water pump off yet. Im hoping I might be able to do the same for my TII.

Not trying to jack your thread, ive just never seen an install right there for a sensor... The setup looks real nice though, I might do the same thing one day.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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It looks by the lack of responses no one has tried things this way... Why did you tap your sensors there if I may ask?

Im not too familar with where the coolant there is flowing from or to, which is why im wondering how good of a location it is.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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HAILERS actually suggested this location a long time ago in another thread, and I eventually followed up on it.

It is located before the thermostat, and it is the hose that runs from the rear housing to the TB. Works well, IMO.

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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by JerryLH3
HAILERS actually suggested this location a long time ago in another thread, and I eventually followed up on it.

It is located before the thermostat, and it is the hose that runs from the rear housing to the TB. Works well, IMO.

Jerry
Awesome that information was exactly what I have been looking for, thanks for the help. One more thing to knock off "the list"
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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looks great especialy if the rest of the bay was polished
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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Re: Pictures of Koyo radiator and e-fan install

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Notice the fan is fused at stock fuse block.
That's a neat trick; I'll have to remember that...
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