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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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pics - new rear strut bar - opinions ??

Shouldn't this bolt to the top of the struts, not to the speaker tower ??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33591




He's also selling a front strut tower version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33591


Version #2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33591

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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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A 3rd gen version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33591



1st Gen version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33591


1st Gen tri-strut version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33591

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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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I just ordered the rear bar three days ago.

I'll let you know how it works when I get it.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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hey great.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Front strut looks cool. . .I am gonna go with a diff rear strut tho. doesnt look like that one he is offering will do much.

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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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the front one's look good, but that rear bar looks like it wouldn't do much. It not connecting the rear struts.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Found on another BBS...

Strut tower braces:
aka "strut bars, strut braces, usless cool things, etc." Depending on your chassis, these bars are great mods, or useless. 99% of the bars on the open market are not very effective at what they are entended for. They are ment to connect your strut towers and keep them an equal distance apart while cornering. If you think of your chassis as a U shape. Where the legs of the U are the strut towers, and base the chassis. The strut brace will connect the top, making a square shaped figure. Thid DOES keep the strut towers the same distance apart, but it still changes, remember from HS geometry, a square is a very unstable shape. To make the strut bars more effective, you can place a leg between the bar, and the chassis, before, and below the mounting point. This will help eleminate the tendency to turn that cool square into a diamond in a corner. Even better then that is to connect the strut bar to the fire wall of the engine bay. This will keep the legs of the U from moving side to side, aswell and front to rear. THIS WILL CAUSE MORE UNDERSTEER. It's something you are going to have to tune around. The easies way to counteract that front bar is to install a rear bar. The rear suspention is alittle different then the front. You have changed the U to a H, yet another unstable shape. Best way to stiffent this up is to connect the tops of the H with a strut bar, and a cross bar from one top, to the center of the H. This will make the square formed by the strut bar into two triangles, the most stable of shapes. Then adding a subframe connector to the bottom of the H and the same type of cross bar, will do the same thing. All in all, the strut bars should be one of the last mods you make to a suspention kit. They will only enhance other suspention mods, and will not be a stand alone item.
The same applys to the rear bar as the front. If you add a diagnal cross bar in the rear bar, as these do. You will keep the chassis from being distorted, as you would if you used just a normal bar. As for the bar going from side to side, rather then top to top, it doesn't matter, unless the FC3S has an extreamly weak structure.

When I build my cage, I am going to tie the strut towers into the safty structure, and I won't have to worry about things
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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I have seen rear strut bars that look like that one but they actually bolt to the strut towers, although I can remember where I found it. And also does anyone know if those front ones incorperate a engine brace like the one from Mazdatrix does?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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good read.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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Does Reactive make Rear Strut Bars?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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Ooop. I meant to say Ractive. I went under www.toucanindustries.com and searched. They don't make the Rear Strut Bar for our cars.

Who makes this bar for our cars?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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Re: pics - new rear strut bar - opinions ??

Originally posted by vaughnc
[B]Shouldn't this bolt to the top of the struts, not to the speaker tower ??
this was asked a while ago and the maker answered. he's on this forum. it's lower then the normal ones. it is in the middle of the tower on the seam where the shock is. so the top bolt is above. reached through the speaker. and the bottom bolt is below the shock mount. you gota take the wheel off and get to it from below. so it's probably pretty strong. and saves cutting the back up. also the bottom braces use factory threaded holes that are already there.
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