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Old 01-05-05, 06:42 PM
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Painting a 10th AE

I need to paint my 10th AE. It is the stock paint except for my hood and mirrors which are 2003 BMW M3 Blue. I really like the look of black on an FC. Do you guys think i should keep it white to keep the 10th AE look? If not black i was thinking about the pearl white off of an escalade. What do you guys think?
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meh whatever color you want. These cars aren't like vintage european cars. I doubt they will ever be valued at alot of money.
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I have a 10th AE too and was looking into the RX-8 pearl white, 2004 RX-8s are available in Japan only, but supposedly the '05 rx-8s will be available here in pearl white. try looking into that. very nice color.
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I think the pearl white from the escalades is just about the nicest looking white ive seen on a car. Actually, Audi has a really really attractice "pearl" white too.
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i agree... a pearl white paint job done right looks really nice. but if your're going to paint it a different color, take off the badges.
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i agree... a pearl white paint job done right looks really nice. but if your're going to paint it a different color, take off the badges.
I agree, and then sell me the badges
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Old 01-05-05, 08:35 PM
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Don't paint your 10AE anything but white unless you want it to go down in value.
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Originally Posted by TurboIIRyan
meh whatever color you want. These cars aren't like vintage european cars. I doubt they will ever be valued at alot of money.
These cars have actually started pulling a fairly decent amount of money and increasing in value in the last couple of years. IMO, If someone were to keep one in mint or immaculate shape, and it also had low original mileage, I would think in 10 or 20 years it would be worth a fairly decent amount of cash to someone.
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InitialD can't be around forever. Give TII a few more years and the hype will die down.
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Don't paint your 10AE anything but white unless you want it to go down in value.



they aren't valued that high anyway

paint it whatever you want




in fact, take a look at my avitar...

i'm not sure what color I am going to paint mine.. might redo it in the 10th anny color or go with a nice honda championchip white...

and i'm keeping the badges on mine...






at the end of the day, who really cares? if any of you paint your base model or plain TII, you have changed it from what it was and now its supposedly worth less? These aren't vintage ferrari's that have to have matching numbers; these are sub $5,000 vehicles at best...
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Originally Posted by NoRotor10AE


they aren't valued that high anyway

paint it whatever you want




in fact, take a look at my avitar...

i'm not sure what color I am going to paint mine.. might redo it in the 10th anny color or go with a nice honda championchip white...

and i'm keeping the badges on mine...






at the end of the day, who really cares? if any of you paint your base model or plain TII, you have changed it from what it was and now its supposedly worth less? These aren't vintage ferrari's that have to have matching numbers; these are sub $5,000 vehicles at best...
The 10AE is a classic... There were limited ones made. Why would you EVER do a v8 swap into one of them? Or paint them anything but white? They can pull in a fair amount more than other 2nd gens if they look stock.

Painting aside, a v8 swap into any rotary vehicle is the stupidest thing ever, rotaries are rare enough without you taking another one away.
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Wink Painting my 10AE also

Originally Posted by Sartori
I think the pearl white from the escalades is just about the nicest looking white ive seen on a car. Actually, Audi has a really really attractice "pearl" white too.
Escalade's pearl white is called Diamond White, and that's the color for me. I bought the 10AE without the badges cuz the last paint shop ripped them from previous owner.
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Originally Posted by dDuB
The 10AE is a classic... There were limited ones made. Why would you EVER do a v8 swap into one of them? Or paint them anything but white? They can pull in a fair amount more than other 2nd gens if they look stock.

Painting aside, a v8 swap into any rotary vehicle is the stupidest thing ever, rotaries are rare enough without you taking another one away.
you are a very ignorant person if you believe anything that you wrote.

they can NOT pull much more than other 2nd gens because NOBODY REALLY CARES ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE or would be willing to pay the 'premium' for a dressed up Turbo II



Rotaries may be rare, but they arent useful for my purposes.... which include daily reliable power making.

Before you go starting to talk all sorts of stupid crap about me not knowing how to care for them and whatnot, I am in posession of quite possibly the highest milage turbo rotary you have ever heard of. My desire to put a V8 in it is due to the fact that it is NOT RELIABLE nor does it make noteworthy power.
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Painting aside, a v8 swap into any rotary vehicle is the stupidest thing ever, rotaries are rare enough without you taking another one away.
I don't really understand this logic. How is anyone "taking one away" by swapping to a non-rotor motor? If that's the case, then I guess it's the "stupidest thing ever" if someone blows their motor and the car ends up in a junkyard, or if someone wrecks and doesn't want to fix it, etc. In fact, a rotary engine gets "taken away" everytime one blows and the rotors/housings aren't reuseable (which they often are not if an apex seal is the cause of demise)....

There is nothing wrong with taking what is essentially a shell of an FC that has ran a lengthy life, and taking out the tired 13BT and putting something else in there that will put down impressive numbers AND crank up everyday without fear.

As far as the painting issue...the concept of repainting an AE used to bother me as well, then I grew up and realized - "who the hell cares?" Feasibly, ANYONE could paint their car monochromatic Crystal White, just as anyone can paint their car Escalade Diamond White. You could paint your AE traffic cone orange and it wouldn't change the fact that THAT particular car rolled off the line as 1 of 1500.

It's cool to preserve AEs if you find them in great condition with low miles. When you have one sitting at more than 200k with more paint missing than actually intact....seriously....what's the harm in giving the car a new lease on life? At least it's not going to a junkyard to end up crushed after sitting out in the elements for a month or two and raped for parts....

And I've had two AEs, so save your "you just don't know" rebuttals.
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Originally Posted by stickgoat
It's cool to preserve AEs if you find them in great condition with low miles. When you have one sitting at more than 200k with more paint missing than actually intact....seriously....what's the harm in giving the car a new lease on life? At least it's not going to a junkyard to end up crushed after sitting out in the elements for a month or two and raped for parts....

And I've had two AEs, so save your "you just don't know" rebuttals.
exactly; i'd much rather see the car preserved in an updated form than see it crushed or parted out to supply the rotary parts bin
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Originally Posted by NoRotor10AE
you are a very ignorant person if you believe anything that you wrote.

they can NOT pull much more than other 2nd gens because NOBODY REALLY CARES ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE or would be willing to pay the 'premium' for a dressed up Turbo II



Rotaries may be rare, but they arent useful for my purposes.... which include daily reliable power making.

Before you go starting to talk all sorts of stupid crap about me not knowing how to care for them and whatnot, I am in posession of quite possibly the highest milage turbo rotary you have ever heard of. My desire to put a V8 in it is due to the fact that it is NOT RELIABLE nor does it make noteworthy power.
I don't need to argue with you about this in this thread.

But....

10AE's do pull in more money.

10AE's are rare.

Rotaries are only as reliable as the owner lets them be.

V8 swaps kill already rare rotaries, and you could easily sell your 10AE and do this to some other car.

Ok, I'm done talking to you.
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Originally Posted by stickgoat
I don't really understand this logic. How is anyone "taking one away" by swapping to a non-rotor motor? If that's the case, then I guess it's the "stupidest thing ever" if someone blows their motor and the car ends up in a junkyard, or if someone wrecks and doesn't want to fix it, etc. In fact, a rotary engine gets "taken away" everytime one blows and the rotors/housings aren't reuseable (which they often are not if an apex seal is the cause of demise)....

There is nothing wrong with taking what is essentially a shell of an FC that has ran a lengthy life, and taking out the tired 13BT and putting something else in there that will put down impressive numbers AND crank up everyday without fear.

As far as the painting issue...the concept of repainting an AE used to bother me as well, then I grew up and realized - "who the hell cares?" Feasibly, ANYONE could paint their car monochromatic Crystal White, just as anyone can paint their car Escalade Diamond White. You could paint your AE traffic cone orange and it wouldn't change the fact that THAT particular car rolled off the line as 1 of 1500.

It's cool to preserve AEs if you find them in great condition with low miles. When you have one sitting at more than 200k with more paint missing than actually intact....seriously....what's the harm in giving the car a new lease on life? At least it's not going to a junkyard to end up crushed after sitting out in the elements for a month or two and raped for parts....

And I've had two AEs, so save your "you just don't know" rebuttals.
Crushing a rotary is also terrible as they can be salvaged and saved.

Blowing a motor is not the same as putting a v8 in instead, you can rebuild the rotary.

This is not a v8 debate, I just made one simple comment that now I know I shouldn't have. V8 discussion is for the other engine swap forum.

I don't know where all of you are coming from, but if the paint is crap repainting it in white, more specifically 10AE white, will let the car sell for more than another color with everything being the same. 10AE's are the rarest 2nd gen and sell for a fair amount, for a 2nd gen. This has been discussed enough in the 2nd gen, do a search for 10AE prices and you'll see.
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Evidently you missed the part of my last reply where I said I've had not one but two 10AEs. I'm fully aware of their rarity, pricing, features, etc.

If the rotary motor in question IS blown or very, very close to it....where's the harm? No one is to say that it can't be rebuilt once it's yanked from the chassis.... Especially if there happens to be another FC shell lying around.
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Originally Posted by stickgoat
Evidently you missed the part of my last reply where I said I've had not one but two 10AEs. I'm fully aware of their rarity, pricing, features, etc.

If the rotary motor in question IS blown or very, very close to it....where's the harm? No one is to say that it can't be rebuilt once it's yanked from the chassis.... Especially if there happens to be another FC shell lying around.
Why not just rebuild it? A v8 swap done properly costs a lot more than rebuilding it, and in fact if you want the power why not just do a 20B swap instead of the v8? To do both properly pricing is similar.

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Originally Posted by dDuB
I don't need to argue with you about this in this thread.

But....

10AE's do pull in more money.

10AE's are rare.

Rotaries are only as reliable as the owner lets them be.

V8 swaps kill already rare rotaries, and you could easily sell your 10AE and do this to some other car.

Ok, I'm done talking to you.

quit thinking you have an exotic car. i've seen dozens of 10AE's that are in VERY good shape...

and i could have bought any of them for < 6,000

They may be rare, but they aren't as desirable as you make them out to be by any far stretch of the imagination, and to think otherwise is just foolish.

The rotary that I have has lasted more than 5-6 rotaries would have buddy so don't speak of care and maintence to me. They are plenty reliable... at stock levels making measely amounts of power. Thats not what I want.

Grow up. You own a car with a modest value at best. Quit making it out to be a classic porsche or something.
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Why not just rebuild it? A v8 swap done properly costs a lot more than rebuilding it, and in fact if you want the power why not just do a 20B swap instead of the v8? To do both properly pricing is similar.

do some research and mabye one day you'll figure it out... till then, you just don't get it...

a 20b will NOT solve the problems, nor would a rebuilt 13B. Besides... its my car so get over it. If i want to put a K20 from my RSX-S into it, i'll do that... you woln't hear me screaming or losing sleep over the thought.

some of you and your rotary loyalty is just pathetic. We're talking about an engine in a car and you guys treat it as if I am disowning a family member
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Thread closed... alternitive engine arguments (pro or con) have no place here.

And the original posters question has been answered, if you want a 10thAE to be as worth as much as any other 88 RX-7 Turbo, paint it, change it etc.

And as of today; stock 10thAEs typically pull $1000 more than non stock or any other 88 turbo. Someday that may be much much more.

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