pcruz

Hey guys, I just came across a 87 TII on those free used car magazines. It was selling for 1700. Called the dealership and the guy said that it has a fuel pump problem and doesn't start. He said that's the only problem but since I can't start the car I'm basically taking his word on it. I haven't gone there to inspect it myself yet. What do you guys think?

Ocelot

could be full of problems that you cant see cause it wont run, for all you know its got suspension problems too that you cant check out before starting it up...have it checked out by a mechanic first

spunks

Especially get the compression checked.But for 1700 bucks that aint bad.

pcruz

the this is that I only have a 2000 dollar budget rightnow so the deal is sounding pretty good.

The situation is that I currently have a good running car but my little brother is planning to get his license in a few months and when he does I'll give him my car. What I'm trying to get across is that untill my little bro gets his license I can afford to keep that rx7 in the garage.

I don't know. What do you guys think?

Sir Rupert Hobo

it might just be one thing.. but then you find out it has to be rebuilt. also, the dealer probably. knows nothing about the rotary. just do a comp. check(as said before) and if it aint good, i wouldn't pay more than $1000. how's the body/tranny/interior?

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Project84

$1700 can't be his firm offer. I bought my car with a known broken coolant seal. They were asking $3500 because the car looked and ran great (before the seal blew on a test drive). Once the seal blew, they wanted $2200 so they could break even because they got the car for that much. I talked them down to $1200. I brought them a center plate from a engine with a broken coolant seal channel and showed them how it worked and what I would have to do to rebuild/replace in the motor. (They thought it was a head gasket) It also helped that they had called Mazda and Mazda wouldn't fix it because the local dealer doesn't have any qualified rotary mechanics. I didn't tell them I had a spare engine in the garage, but they new it wouldn't sell because nobody will touch a broken rotary, and once I brought them some engine parts to show them how serious the problem was I had them.

Anyway, back to the subject, try talking them down. It can be done.

pcruz

is the 87 fuel pump mechanical or electrical?

spunks

Electrical in the tank.There is an access panel under the rear carpet for the pump.

Icemark

if the engine doesn't run, its not worth more than $1000 unless it is a 'vert

88IntegraLS

What if it was a GTUs?

Evil Aviator

However, even the mechanic can't perform a proper check-out if the engine doesn't work.

The big question here: If it's just the fuel pump, then why doesn't the dealership fix it for $300, and then ask the dealer Blue Book value of $4,000 for the car?
The small answers here:
1) The dealership doesn't want to spend $300 to make an extra $2,300 on the car. (yeah, right, lol)
2) The dealership is full of idiots.
3) The dealership is lying about the condition of the car.

The next question here: What kind of dealership sells cars that don't work? Is this a salvage yard or something?

$1,700 is absurd for a car that won't run. I would put the value more around $500-800, depending on the condition of the rest of the car. Some of my friends have gotten decent S4 TII's with blown engines for $0-50. You can get a running S4 TII for $1,500-2,000.

Evil Aviator

Then it would be worth about $300-500.

ForsakenRX7

Buying ANY car that you've never heard run is always a big risk. That car may have a blown motor for all you know.

pcruz

Alright, now I'm looking at a 87 turbo II. The engine was rebuilt.New apex seals. it had around 110k on it. he took out the A/C pump, switch for the fuel cut, intake box, and battery box. there was a little glitch in the driverside pwr window. sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. He agreed on 3,000.

pcruz

what do you guys think?

Wankel7

Ok, on that car two posts above.

No, bad deal.

First thing. He installed a switch for the fuel cut. I am assuming this is becaues it has a flooding problem. Why is it flood? Leaky injectors? Low compression? Don't be impressed by this switch. It is a bandaid not a selling point.

imop that car is worth about 1500. Unless the body is impecable. That would change things.

James

fcturbo2

where are you located at?..To me that price is still steep. I would do a compression test if i were you. If you are local me and my friend will help you do a comp test.

fcturbo2

PM me back right away..

pcruz

the fuel system was calibrated on august. I saw the the reciept.

I'm in northern california.

Wankel7

The fuel system was calibrated?

That is a new one to me. What does that mean?

James

Templeswain

If you're planning on getting this car for a fix up where you are willing to rebuild the engine and tranny and whatever else. Then its worth it. I'd buy it.

If you hate working on cars, then I wouldn't.

Non-running Rx7 N/A's are like a can of worms. Let alone a tII. So it does kind of depend on how much you love Rx7's.

Have you closely inspected the engine compartment for tons and tons of caked oil or anything else that would hint about its up-keep?

pcruz

All the guy told me was that he checked the injectors and one of them were bad so he had a fuel system calibration done.

Also, I didn't get to check the compression but I got it up to 90mph without any shaking in the steering wheel or anything.

Templeswain

So it does start?

pcruz

OH yeah, it starts and runs good. You were probably confused by the beginning of this thread. I'm looking at a totally different 87TII now. I passed that first car by. Thought it was too risky cause it was a buy "as is"

Templeswain

For a tII at 2,000 and under. I'd say buy it and tune the ******* **** out of it. I'd also see how she drives when the engine is driven hard and heats up.