This one is for Mr. ******* 0_0 fuel system....
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This one is for Mr. Icemark 0_0 fuel system....
Originally posted by Icemark
Its a left over Honda tuner thing... a lot of people that deal with small block 4 and 6 cyl engines, a bigger secondary nets them more HP.
So they buy a RX-7 and figure the same must be true for a rotary....
Of course it isn't.
Its a left over Honda tuner thing... a lot of people that deal with small block 4 and 6 cyl engines, a bigger secondary nets them more HP.
So they buy a RX-7 and figure the same must be true for a rotary....
Of course it isn't.
I hear and read(sometimes say it myself) that the N/a fuel setup will handle 200-250hp with not mods(given it works 100% good). Where was this initially based off of?
Has this even been done for a TII? Is there a formula directly relating CC's to AFR's and then to HP?
Santiago
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I think Ted said that testing showed the stock injectors are good up to about 250HP.
But regardless, my comment was more towards the people that the third mod they do (after a cone filter and a cat back) is too bolt on bigger injectors.
Which in the case of a basicly stock Honda, will give you more HP, but in the case of a mechanically stock 13B, will actually lower the HP.
But regardless, my comment was more towards the people that the third mod they do (after a cone filter and a cat back) is too bolt on bigger injectors.
Which in the case of a basicly stock Honda, will give you more HP, but in the case of a mechanically stock 13B, will actually lower the HP.
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well said Icemark, that said I really wouldn't even upgrade the injectors unless your running 12 psi + on the stock turbo or an upgraded turbo, right now I'm running my car with a large street port, intake, 2.5 full exhaust, and a walbro, not to mention all the gauges,. running the stock turbo with a ported wastegate, max boost I see is 7 psi, and the shocker is it runs THE Best on 87 octane!!! and it still is running rich!!!
although I just got back from the wed night drags, I ran 93 octane just for safteys sake and my car didn't idle as good with 93 and definalty didn't feel as fast with the 87, but hey this is the first time I made it back from the track this year without blowing the motor :p
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I agree mainly with what you said Icemark. But if you get at least a piggyback system when you upgrade injectors you can utilize them more. You can lean out the afr in low and mid range, and then bump it up when you start overboosting.
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For four 460cc/min injectors, if you use a figure of 8cc/min of fuel per flywheel kW and an 80% duty cycle you get a figure of 247hp.
That doesn't necessarily mean the NA fuel system can support 250hp. This is merely the appoximate amount of power the injectors can support. It doesn't mean the fuel pump or the ECU are up to the task.
That doesn't necessarily mean the NA fuel system can support 250hp. This is merely the appoximate amount of power the injectors can support. It doesn't mean the fuel pump or the ECU are up to the task.
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
I agree mainly with what you said Icemark. But if you get at least a piggyback system when you upgrade injectors you can utilize them more. You can lean out the afr in low and mid range, and then bump it up when you start overboosting.
- Steiner
I agree mainly with what you said Icemark. But if you get at least a piggyback system when you upgrade injectors you can utilize them more. You can lean out the afr in low and mid range, and then bump it up when you start overboosting.
- Steiner
My main concern was with the MYTH...not truth(in theory) that the N/a system can hold up to that much HP.
Tii's are a whole separate ball game
Thanks guys.
Santiago
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
For four 460cc/min injectors, if you use a figure of 8cc/min of fuel per flywheel kW and an 80% duty cycle you get a figure of 247hp.
That doesn't necessarily mean the NA fuel system can support 250hp. This is merely the appoximate amount of power the injectors can support. It doesn't mean the fuel pump or the ECU are up to the task.
For four 460cc/min injectors, if you use a figure of 8cc/min of fuel per flywheel kW and an 80% duty cycle you get a figure of 247hp.
That doesn't necessarily mean the NA fuel system can support 250hp. This is merely the appoximate amount of power the injectors can support. It doesn't mean the fuel pump or the ECU are up to the task.
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