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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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OK----here we go again.....I have an 86 GXL that is all stock. I have done the searches. I have tested out everything from compression to spark to fuel. My car stalled while driving, and it has not started since. I KNOW it is flooded....the plugs are drowning there is so much fuel. I have tried all the unflooding tricks except ATF and tow-starting it. I figured that it is not the basic flooding problem since it happened while I was driving and not when I tried to start it.

I know that the compression is good enough. I know that I am getting spark. I replaced the afm and as far as I can tell that is working. I just put everything back together after cleaning the injectors, and still no change. I was told that the ECU is probably bad, but I am getting air, spark, and fuel(though too much fuel).....

PLEASE let me know where I should be looking!! I am down to just aq couple things--ECU, FPR, or fuel pump.....HELP!!!
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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well i would suggest trying the ATF trick just to get it start and see if it floodes again and if it does try getting new injectors or yours rebuilt
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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If its flooding out that bad while you are driving, you need to change the injectors
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Tow it at 4k in second gear. If it doesnt start or wont stay running you should start looking for a new ecu.

Edit: If he had his injectors cleaned they should have flow tested them. They would not send the injectors back w/o telling him they need to be replaced.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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here's the thing--injectors are supposed to be the low-impedance ones--1.5-3 ohms.....but they all measure between 10-12 ohms. And they are NOT the wrong injectors....the high impedance ones have different wiring plugs. They were just cleaned also. This was the only time I have had this problem, so I am more inclined to think it is somethign that just broke/malfunctioned as opposed tosomethign that is out of adjustment. I don't know what the ohm measurement means either--can someone tell me?
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Edit: If he had his injectors cleaned they should have flow tested them. They would not send the injectors back w/o telling him they need to be replaced.
this place would
http://www.cruzinperformance.com/fuelinj.html

Some cars have a resistor pack between the ecu and the injectors so that the ecu doesn't read 12-14 ohms
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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where is this resistor pack and how do you test it?
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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regardless of the injector issue, take the 5 minutes and $2.00 to put the fuel cut off switch in. Makes a big difference when your trying to restart from a flooded engine regardless of the cause.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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dude, first eliminate all the easy stuff, make SURE you dont have to go out and spend an arm and a leg to fix it, like push starting it. mine did that one day... it wouldnt start for ****, i had no idea what was wrong... tried using my cutoff switch and all, but nothing... it might of had low voltage but i dont remember, anyways i push started it and that solved the problem. not sure why exactly it did that, but later on i replaced my fouled out plugs, and that got rid of some startup smoke and it started much easier.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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If the ecu is seeing the high imp signal from the injectors it will eventually blow. That is more than likely your problem.
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