theedn

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Hi my rx7 smokes on start up and keeps smoking and i was told that that can be caused by bad oil seals but for the life of me i cant find any diagrams or anything showing how this can be done any suggestions of how to go about it

Smokems

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you will have to rebuild. sorry. Replace the seals by tearing the motor down. umm someone can explain to him in more detail.

theedn

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damn really....would i buy like i kit of seals for the rebuild or is it easyer to buy a new engine...i just got this car a week ago and need to get it on the road as fast as possible.

Jpk3200

Buying a "new" engine = chance of rebuilding it anyways.

teddyrx2

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rebuild the motor...it will be quicker and easier and you will know what your working with when it's open...are you going to rebuild it or someone else?

but yeah your oil seals are shot

RX7freak08

Yeah you know I would probably end up finding one that is fairly good.

theedn

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i was going to find someone who knew what they were doing cuz i can do some basic maintenance on it but i would be completely lost doing it and dont wanna **** up.

RX7freak08

Yeah well alot of the people are right you need to rebuild that thing. some stuff can be reused though so it can save you some money.

gnomesliv

why is this....don't you buy a new engine to bypass having the rebuild an old worn one??

theedn

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what kind of seals should i get should i try to find a seal pack that comes with all or just get a couple

Jpk3200

First, I put "new" in quotes because there are no brand new engines.

Buying another engine is a bit of a gamble if you aren't planning on rebuilding it anyways. There are many variables about the engine that you as the new buyer can't be 100% sure about (like how good the previous owner took care of it).

Not everybody who gets a "new" motor has to rebuild it. I'm sure some people get lucky. I mean, the engine is already out of the car, and it would be a huge disappointment to drop the engine in, only to find out it's blown or will blow in 1000 miles.

twistedriver

theedn can't you just live with a smoker for now? I mean if you need the car right now i would recommend you to just run some heavy weight engine oil and drive it until you have the time + money to replace the engine. If the car starts and runs pretty good there is even a chance for you to pass smog with a smoker engine.

theedn

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yeah i thought about that but when i went looking for a engine all i could find was turbo ones and i dont want turbo...

does anyone know where to get the seals i cant find them anywhere

Aaron Cake

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Is your car turbocharged?

If so, then the smoke may simply be from worn turbo seals.

gnomesliv

yeah i see your point...

theedn

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no its not turbocharged its a normal 13b na

theedn

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is this really the kit i would need to buy to rebuild and replace all the seals?

http://www.pineappleracing.com/index...PROD&ProdID=52

teddyrx2

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yeah thats a really good kit,and for the price that beats mazdatrix and racingbeat by a long shot...good find

theedn

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aw ok damn i was hoping there was a cheaper seal kit but ok thanks

alexdimen

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atkins may be a little less expensive. I've got 25k on my rebuild with the atkins rotary kit. Viton seals and oem coolant o-rings. Awesome compression.

theedn

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do i really need a full kit like this or should i just get the oil seals.


http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/pr...0&cat=0&page=1

alexdimen

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It would be foolish not to replace all or most wear items when you have the engine apart. Whether you do it yourself or not...

Besides, you'll at least need a gasket and o-ring set on top of the control o-rings.

If you decide to rebuild, I also suggest not using a pan gasket at all and just using permatex the right stuff sealant.

theedn

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i have decided to just deal with the smoke until it dies or stops running and when that happens get a turbo which is only 1500 or so concidering the seals are 1200. but my question is im going to be using this car as a daily driver will having a turbo harm the life of it?

alexdimen

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Seals are not $1200. You can get an master rebuild KIT for under $1k shipped. If you run the engine until it breaks a seal or loses coolant, you will spend significantly more to rebuild it since the broken seal will trash the insides of the motor and the leaking water will rust internal parts.

To add to that, you can't just put a turbo on an NA rotary. It's not that simple.

If you're talking about swapping a TII engine, what makes you think that used engine is going to be any better than this one? That's not a simple drop in swap either.

Your numbers are way off.

theedn

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i really dont know much about this im just going on what i read
http://www.pineappleracing.com/index...PROD&ProdID=52
that was where i got the quote and i dont know if i get it open and see that there is additional damage that i need to get parts for

http://www.jdmracingmotors.com/produ...products_id=70

thats the turbo it has everthing except the drive train and the wiring it looks like