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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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ok so i got this rx7 for 400 bucks and i like FC's but dont kno anything about the RE's so now i have it and i dont kno were to look. iv been on here just reading cuz i didnt really wanna have to ask but i dont have any other choices. the mazda shop told me i proly kno more then them??? WTF dumb bitch's. anyways the guy told me the car runs fine after its done with its subzero start thing and it kinda did. i picked it up from his house and we pull started it. it took forever and we had to pull it at about 30-40 mph in 2nd for about a mile and it started. alot of smoke but its been sitting for about a year. iv been looking around and i noticed the oil lines from the oil metering pump were off. they both go to rotar one. i have those coming but i still think its gotta be somthing else. while i was driving it i had to see wat it could do and i was going about 40 mph and i floored it and it barely did anything. like ive seen geo's scoot faster. but anyways im thinkin to myself maybe it just the engine completly but then from wat i heard if the engine goes out the engine wont start at all. mine does. so instead of bustin out a loan to get the engine rebuilt im gonna try and get as much advice as i can . please please help my alternative would have to be some crazy 4 banger.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:56 AM
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oh yea i called him about the oil metering lines and he said it was fine cuz he put 2 stroke oil in the gas every once in awhile to keep it lubed and i asked around and aperently a few people do that so its not that. i cant find anyone to help me start it so i cant get the compression done or check for vac leaks so im feelin kinda crapy i dont kno how to check for **** on a car that i cant get to do anything???
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 03:53 AM
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Is the car not cranking? Maybe its a power issue. Check the battery terminals and also the starter.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Replace the starter with a known good unit and see what happens. While your at it toss in a new battery. Might as well change plugs and wires too. Then try to start it and tell us what happens.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Compression test.

http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/blown.htm

Also see this since the car has been sitting:
http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/unstore.htm

And this:
http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/newowner.htm
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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puts oil in the tank every now and then, hhhmmm thats sounds nice. maybe he ment he put oil in when he thought to do it. also wouldnt the car go into limp mode if the omp is completely removed.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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In all fairness, Aaron, he's got to be able to get the car to turn over by key in order to do any type of compression test. Currently, he's only able to push start the car. So for the moment, a compression test is out of the window. Unless someone wants to lay on the fender, hood open, while being pushed to test.

That's doesn't mean don't read the links Aaron posted for you. They are very good and should be read regardless of your problem.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by riverzendz
In all fairness, Aaron, he's got to be able to get the car to turn over by key in order to do any type of compression test. Currently, he's only able to push start the car. So for the moment, a compression test is out of the window. Unless someone wants to lay on the fender, hood open, while being pushed to test.

That's doesn't mean don't read the links Aaron posted for you. They are very good and should be read regardless of your problem.
Maybe I was confused by his horrendous typing, but he didn't say he couldn't crank it over. He just said to start the car it had to be pull/push started.

If he didn't say it, can we get some confirmation (preferably in English... ) from the op?
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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if you turn the key and hear clicking/ticking its the starter...
if it sounds like its trying to turn over but cant, its the battery.
thas all i got for you with out looking at your car... sowwie!

http://www.angelfire.com/amiga2/aurora0/10ae.htm
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by R-Kive
if you turn the key and hear clicking/ticking its the starter...
if it sounds like its trying to turn over but cant, its the battery.
thas all i got for you with out looking at your car... sowwie!

http://www.angelfire.com/amiga2/aurora0/10ae.htm
Clicking can also be a bad connection at the battery (corroded/loose/shitty terminals connectors).
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Make sure your clutch switch is working properly, otherwise the starter won't turn.

and you do realize that you need a new motor right?
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Where does it say that the starter isn't turning? The original poster didn't mention the starter at all, and did not say that the engine was not cranking with the key...
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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it turns over like it wants to start just doesnt start
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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sorry about the typing. yea it cranks just wont start. i thought it was just flooded but i tryed pulling the fuel relay and turning it over a few times then put it back in and it made no diff?
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Where does it say that the starter isn't turning? The original poster didn't mention the starter at all, and did not say that the engine was not cranking with the key...

i could barely make sense of his original post in the first place, my fault
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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i second the compression test.

the fact that the car had to be pulled at 30-40mph to begin firing and then had no acceleration is not a good sign.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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i found a huge exhaust leak and it is infact flooding itself? i guess i have some leaky injecters? but would that be the only thing to keep it from starting. (recap)--- it runs but has to be pulled, it sat for about a year, its got alot of miles, found the leaky injectors, neads oil metering pump lines, yes it does turn over but because its flooded it wont start or that wat i think but i dont wanna blow a bunch of money on little **** if its something that im looking over like a senser or something.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:55 AM
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alternator is bad and or battery is not charged. jump start your car again and get a multimeter , set it on volt, and see if its reading over 12.5. if it is, then ur starter is bad because the alternator is not charging the battery.

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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Where does it say that the starter isn't turning? The original poster didn't mention the starter at all, and did not say that the engine was not cranking with the key...
Where does it say it is? (Other than his new post, damn it)

Originally Posted by zrokool85
i found a huge exhaust leak and it is infact flooding itself? i guess i have some leaky injecters? but would that be the only thing to keep it from starting. (recap)--- it runs but has to be pulled, it sat for about a year, its got alot of miles, found the leaky injectors, neads oil metering pump lines, yes it does turn over but because its flooded it wont start or that wat i think but i dont wanna blow a bunch of money on little **** if its something that im looking over like a senser or something.
Ok now we're talking. Like Aaron and Karack said...compression test. Now that we all know the car does turn over with a key you can do a compression test. Get those numbers, they'll help a great deal.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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did you buy it off ebay from a guy in kentucky? if so it has a blown coolant seal i looked into it myself but didnt pursue it
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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leaky injectors. apperently after the car is off they continue to leak for quite some time and thats y it sounds so horrible when i start it and it wont start wen i turn it off. i pinched the line coming out of the fuel filter and pushed down on the gas pedal for about 15 minutes and then started it. then unpinched the line and it started. thanx for all the advice people. next time i need help ill type it out better. oh yea does anybody have injectors for a 87 gxl i can pay or trade parts. i have a good trany for a non tubo 86-89 and again thanks
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