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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 09:46 PM
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So 2 days ago i drove my car to work then again when i was on break but after i got off 3 hours after my break my car wouldnt start and the battery died so i got a jump and it wouldnt catch so i put the battery from my other car in it (the battery is only 3 months old) with no avail so i figured it was flooded so i pulled the plugs and did the whole unflooding procedure it still wouldnt start i pulled the plugs again and checked for spark and its getting a strong spark but it wont catch i recently replaced the ecu, fuel pump, spark plugs, and a few other miscellaneous things does anyone have any ideas i need to get it back up and running to get to and from work while im waiting for a radiator for my other car
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 10:06 PM
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Sounds like it may still be flooded. Put some oil in the rotor housings and see if it will start

Maybe do a compression test too beforehand, just to be safe
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 10:36 PM
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Sounds like it may still be flooded. Put some oil in the rotor housings and see if it will start

Maybe do a compression test too beforehand, just to be safe
i will try that tomorrow and i dont have a compression tester
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 06:02 AM
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Does the tach needle bounce when you're trying to start it?
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:16 AM
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Does the tach needle bounce when you're trying to start it?
i wasnt paying much attention to the tach but im pretty sure it does
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 08:04 AM
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I asked because sometimes that gets overlooked when it won't start. In those cases, the meter fuse has blown and from memory I believe it keeps the coils from firing.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
I asked because sometimes that gets overlooked when it won't start. In those cases, the meter fuse has blown and from memory I believe it keeps the coils from firing.
i checked spark it is getting spark
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lduley
Sounds like it may still be flooded. Put some oil in the rotor housings and see if it will start

Maybe do a compression test too beforehand, just to be safe
oil didnt work i couldnt get the oil directly in the housings so i put some on the spark plugs and reinstalled them and it didnt change anything
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 11:21 PM
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https://youtu.be/U_3leVmRacs this is all it does when i try to start it (battery is starting to run low now im going to charge it and try again tomorrow)
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Old Apr 18, 2017 | 06:12 AM
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You can't put them on the plugs, that negates and makes things worse then they are

Take your plugs out and clean them with carb cleaner or starting fluid

Do a compression test

Find a small long hose and put it in the leading plug holes and pour some oil in each housing while turning it over by hand

Put your clean plugs in, put the wires on correctly

Take your starting fluid and give your intake a good 1 second shot of it

Hit the key and hopefully profit
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lduley
You can't put them on the plugs, that negates and makes things worse then they are

Take your plugs out and clean them with carb cleaner or starting fluid

Do a compression test

Find a small long hose and put it in the leading plug holes and pour some oil in each housing while turning it over by hand

Put your clean plugs in, put the wires on correctly

Take your starting fluid and give your intake a good 1 second shot of it

Hit the key and hopefully profit
this didnt work and my car is still stuck at work so i cant keep working on it there
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 07:12 AM
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It might not hurt to try and push or pull start it. If this does work then you know there is an issue with your tune with ECU possibly. I had to do this a couple times. Funny thing is it would start fine after that. It was just when I let it set some. This was the only way I could get the car to start. I could not jump it no matter how fast it turned over. This ended up being tuning with the ECU.

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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by smikels
It might not hurt to try and push or pull start it. If this does work then you know there is an issue with your tune with ECU possibly. I had to do this a couple times. Funny thing is it would start fine after that. It was just when I let it set some. This was the only way I could get the car to start. I could not jump it no matter how fast it turned over. This ended up being tuning with the ECU.
i cant push start it because its an automatic and i just replaced the ecu so i dont think thats it
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Are you sure your fuel pump didn't crap the bed?

Remove the fuel feed hose at the fuel rack and stick the hose into a clean, dry bottle so you can reuse the fuel later.. Have someone crank it or jumper the fuel pump check connector and see if she's even getting fuel..
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
Are you sure your fuel pump didn't crap the bed?

Remove the fuel feed hose at the fuel rack and stick the hose into a clean, dry bottle so you can reuse the fuel later.. Have someone crank it or jumper the fuel pump check connector and see if she's even getting fuel..
i just replaced the pump too the car is getting fuel and spark but it wont start i was running fine until the battery died then it flooded and i tried to unflood it and even after unflooding it it wont start it just floods again
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And have you verified the health of the ecu ground under the intake manifold?
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Here do this... Search the 2nd Gen forum for an old thread of mine... " fuel pressure? "

Compare the wiring for the indicated pins on an s5 ecu and meter what hailers told me to meter years ago.
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
And have you verified the health of the ecu ground under the intake manifold?
i have not checked any grounds but i will soon do you have pictures of where all of the grounds that effect the ecu are
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
Here do this... Search the 2nd Gen forum for an old thread of mine... " fuel pressure? "

Compare the wiring for the indicated pins on an s5 ecu and meter what hailers told me to meter years ago.
it turns out i bought a faulty ecu and it failed after only 3 weeks...time to look for a new one
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Old May 5, 2017 | 03:19 AM
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it turns out i bought a faulty ecu and it failed after only 3 weeks...time to look for a new one
nevermind i replaced the ecu again and still nothing it doesnt even try to start im about ready to just get rid of it
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