DCRotor

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so i bought a 1988 N/A SE blown engine for $700 then hired someone to do a rebuild. This bizzle runs away with my down payment of $200. Now found a short block to buy that was nice looking on ebay. $700 for it shipped. i got it and was soooo happy started to pull engine out of the car and transfer support hardware to the short block go to put the pilot berring (spelling) in and @#%^%$#$!!!!!! it won't fit i look in the hole and parts of the old berring is in the hole. The outer most part of the berring is in there. Now i have to call this guy up and get my money back, then call the bank to fight the payment just incase he runs away. Someone tell me why i must do this??? Anyone? All i want to do is drift in a good looking car. ( FC looks better than 240 and a corrola) sigh....im going to call theguy and then the bank now then go cry by my SE and two n/a engines on the floor.

Rxmfn7

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Someone is a little smiley happy...

If there is a piece of the bearing stuck onto the output shaft..try and get it off with a puller,or just grind it off (carefully!) This really isnt all that uncommon of a problem, and certainly no reason to return the engine. I agree that you shouldve been made aware of that before the purchase though..

Rotorific

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as for your shitty luck this is what to do.... find the guy that ran off with your money and get that back... it wont be easy so just do what you have to do.... second you can get that pilot bearing out that is no problem they have p.b. removal tools at your local parts stores that you can rent or you can use the pressure method but i dont know how to do it i just know pressure will force all that **** out.

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DCRotor

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For everyones info im not some sixteen year old who just got his lisence. im a college student in electrical/ Mecanical engineering. But yes this is my first time dealing with rx-7s. so you think i can get it out with a grinder??????

Mr. Gadget

Hey bud, relax. Looks like the posts above are trying to help. The pilot bearing is an easy fix.

Dvst8

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theres pullers out there that can get it out for ya, i think mazdatrix has the tool...

DCRotor

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will the puller get it out even its the outer most part of the berring and the inner part is gone?

and Mr Gadget the only reason i said that was someone said some things about me and my problem that were deleted. Saying i was a wannabe drifter and i could never drift a SE

White_Seven

Yes, it will

DCRotor

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Thanx for the info i guess i got a lil' too pissed cause i put so much work into my car(painting, cleaning, pulling)
i'll look for the tool and hopefuly everything will be fine.

tweaked

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You can buy a pilot bearing puller for about $40. AutoZone has free rental where you pay for the cost of the tool, then when you return it you get the money back. It will take about 5 minutes to get it out.
If your going to drift I suggest you install the rear toe elimiators.

venomrx7

You got a problem with 16 year olds?? I bet I could work on a Rex just as well as or better than 90% of the other owners. A shop has never seen my car for any repair no matter how major or minor, I do everything myself. I started working on cars at 13 with my 72 mustang mach one and never looked back, so a 16 year old can work on a car, and maybe a lot better thatn you think. (even though I'll be 17 thursday )

But anyway now that I'm done ranting, where are you in school? I want to go to Virginia Tech for Mech engineering and a minor in business.

DCRotor

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well like i said earlier someone made a comment that was deleted by the ppl who run the site. Im at Howard.

BigTone

Good for you for working on you car, but the steryotype of the 16 year old is sadly true. No need to take offense at it.

asherwood

gee DCRotor, and I thought that only I suffered from the curse of the RX!

Good luck, with a little perseverance you will prevail, or at least that's what I keep muttering to myself everytime something else goes wrong!

venomrx7

No I have the curse too. Theres always somethin to work on on these cars. Today I had to swap my clutch master cyl But the improovement was incredible

And about the 16 year old dealio I guess I did go overboard and yea very few people around here have any idea what a rotary even is. i live in redneckville USA and there answer to "no it doesn't have any pistons" is "I bet my shotgun will finish it off, duh hur"

stupid rednecks.

Rex4Life

Well it's true about the 16 year olds--but ya know what--gotta start somewhere. So keep messing up, breaking things, and eventually you'll fix things. Soon you'll be good at just fixing things.

I'd recommend keeping the engine and pull that pilot bearing. They can be a pain, I used an autozone puller and it took about 20 pulls to finally get it. Also had to use a dremel to grind down the outer part and weaken it to where it would be pulled. If it is a real hard one the pressure method won't work so don't bother with it--especially if it is already in pieces.

Good Luck and keep breaking things (jk).

p.s. At 40 I'm still breaking things here and there.

BigTone

Very good advice

DCRotor

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Yeah i guess you have to look at the up side of things. The glass is half full. lol gonna go get the puller from autozone tomarrow and pull that baby before work.

$150FC

if you are wanting to drift then you probably will regret rebuilding this n/a engine anyway instead of going turbo...

Parastie

Hey do you know exactly what's wrong with the blown motor? Like, does it have compression or anything of that sort? 13Bs have been diagnosed as blown when they were just flooded. If you have compression in both rotors it might still be good. Of course, if you're like me then the stupid thing really is blown...

Rotorific

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Which is exactly what i said origianlly but wow it got deleted because why????? I wasnt bashing but for some reason aaron thought otherwise....It takes a fair amount of skill to keep an NA RX-7 adrift for more than a couple of seconds because of A. its lack of torque and B. the principle that RX-7s are not ment to lose traction in the first place. If you want a good drift setup then you might as well follow suit and go turbo and try from there... Plenty of people on the board will tell you that there are not many RX-7s drifting for a reason... first off they are not meant to drift and second a stock FC will never drift as far sideways as a 240 because of its tie rods and lack of aftermarket to adjust them... Im sorry for earlier but it just seems as if everyone and i do mean everyone is trying the Drifting bandwagon just like the streetracing/dragging bandwagon that happened during fast and the furious... the only difference is that drifting costs more money than dragging and it involves alot more skill... You coming from the east coast (D.C.) seem nothing more than another bandwagon member because there has never been an official drift session over on the east coast unless you count NOPI in which the D1 drifters from DriftXtreme came and put on a great show. There could be plenty of drifting up there but its not legalized or publicized. Just have fun in your rex being whatever you do-Gabe

And if it really matters im 21 Ive owned 6 RX-7s been through 8 motors and 4 trannys most of them junkyard replacements...I just rebuilt my first motor, Ive replaced all the RX-7 curses including 2 clutches and master/slave cylinders and the dredded diff mount so your not alone out there who think its just you....Ive never owned a TurboII but plan to soon until then im finally moving on to bigger (99 Tahoe) and better things (95 S14) while still keeping my 3rd and best RX-7 my 88 GTU.... -Gabe

DCRotor

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So your telling me no one has ever drifted a N/A or ever will. I think someone has and if not i'll be the first one. And if i don't Hey thats trile and error. Hey if your right your right and I'll learn! But the most important thing is i'll learn for myself.

On the drift band wagon coment ... im sorry to be me, but thats all i can be. i guess i am whatever you say i am!! Everyone starts somewhere this is where im starting. Its better im trying to control my car when its in chaos than speeding down a street Fast and Furous style playing Ja Rule and qouting lines like " I need two bottles of NOS, the big ones and i need them tonite." When your new to drifting its always your on the bandwagon stright Initial D style and if you where on it before Initial D your original. So tell me when you have a kid and he starts drifting will you tell him hes on a bandwagon? For your info im 23.

DrifterFD3S

well i think its better to start with an N/A rx7 when drifting. ive read that you should start drifting in an under powered car until you can absolutly control it, then add power. i started with an rx7 with half a motor. my little one-rotor warrior saw quite alot of drift action until the rest of the motor finally blew, and i toward the end, i wasnt even using the e-brake to get the back end around (keep in mind it probably had about 50~no joke~ hp) so, in my opinion, you dont need a TII to drift (and it may hamper you if you are just starting out), and i havent even done the rear toe eliminators yet

DCRotor

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wow one rotor thats cool. starting out this N/A will be just fine for me. thanks for your support.

Kenteth

ok... i dont really think anyone thought you were 16. Usually 16 yr olds ask how to make their car mad fast. Anyhow,like been said, you can goto a local auto parts store and rent a pilot bearing removal too. I've read tha the rx-7 is a little tricky to use with the ones at the stores and that mazdatrix sells one for around $120 that is made specificaly for the rotaries.

Anyways, I'm a MechE too thats double majoring in EE. Coincidentaly I'll be having to remove my PB in the next month or so, so I'll be interested in how it goes.