New speedo cable, gauge still not working?!
New speedo cable, gauge still not working?!
After picking up a t2 speedo cable my speedo still don't work... I know it's all mechanical. The cable is fine, the cable is properly installed at the tranny and behing the gauge cluster. Why would this not work? Bad speedo gear on the trans? Bad cluster? Keep in mind it never worked so I'm starting this fresh...
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YOu can take that gear out at the trans to check it.
If you also Unscrew the cable at the Trans you can turn the end by hand to see if the gauge moves at the cluster.
If it does then it is your speedo gear at the trans that is toast.they are plastic too.
EDIT:
SIR ..ya listen to that Link I sent ya?
If you also Unscrew the cable at the Trans you can turn the end by hand to see if the gauge moves at the cluster.
If it does then it is your speedo gear at the trans that is toast.they are plastic too.
EDIT:
SIR ..ya listen to that Link I sent ya?
Originally Posted by misterstyx69
YOu can take that gear out at the trans to check it.
If you also Unscrew the cable at the Trans you can turn the end by hand to see if the gauge moves at the cluster.
If it does then it is your speedo gear at the trans that is toast.they are plastic too.
EDIT:
SIR ..ya listen to that Link I sent ya?
If you also Unscrew the cable at the Trans you can turn the end by hand to see if the gauge moves at the cluster.
If it does then it is your speedo gear at the trans that is toast.they are plastic too.
EDIT:
SIR ..ya listen to that Link I sent ya?
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and I saw Sir Cygnus post up and it was a shout out..(sorry about that).
Originally Posted by misterstyx69
Yes,you will lose a bit of fluid takin that gear out so have something to stop the flow while you inspect it.
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and I saw Sir Cygnus post up and it was a shout out..(sorry about that).
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and I saw Sir Cygnus post up and it was a shout out..(sorry about that).
Sorry I still have no clue what your talkin about with the shout out... Gotta dumb it down for me haha
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Spinning the cable by hand ain't gonna excite the speedo...chuck the cable end up in a hand drill and give it a whirl.
Once I kinked the speedo cable routing thru the dash, over the tubing that supplies air to the defroster vents. Did this on a dash re-install. Anyway the kink built up far too much friction in the cable to sheath, & the cable ended up shearing in torsion about 5" from the input to the back of the cluster.
Hope you get a new cluster for yours soon! Are you going to reset the odometer to what it was when it failed?
Hope you get a new cluster for yours soon! Are you going to reset the odometer to what it was when it failed?
Originally Posted by Landon303
Once I kinked the speedo cable routing thru the dash, over the tubing that supplies air to the defroster vents. Did this on a dash re-install. Anyway the kink built up far too much friction in the cable to sheath, & the cable ended up shearing in torsion about 5" from the input to the back of the cluster.
Hope you get a new cluster for yours soon! Are you going to reset the odometer to what it was when it failed?
Hope you get a new cluster for yours soon! Are you going to reset the odometer to what it was when it failed?
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It is illegal to reset the Odometer,so just make a reference to it somewhere in the car as to what mileage is on the car now,what mileage is on the Speedo.
Figure it out from there.
Figure it out from there.
Originally Posted by misterstyx69
It is illegal to reset the Odometer,so just make a reference to it somewhere in the car as to what mileage is on the car now,what mileage is on the Speedo.
Figure it out from there.
Figure it out from there.
The law is full of nuance.
Originally Posted by clokker
Resetting the mileage carries the whiff of intent to deceive, replacing the cluster is just bad luck necessitating a replacement.
The law is full of nuance.
The law is full of nuance.
replacing the cluster with a lower mile one is the same as modifying the original cluster.
it is legal to modify or replace the cluster but most states require a door sticker and file the modification with new mileage versus old with the DMV. usually this also requires the work to be performed by a certified repair facility. so yes, you can legally install a 0 mile cluster in the car but it has to be documented and disclosed to any interested parties when selling it.
in most cases it isn't a big deal but still a matter of ethics and can be considered fraud if you replace it and do not do it properly as per above. most states carry a 7 year mileage record, beyond that the DMV stops recording mileage. the mileage on the cluster is treated as chassis miles, not engine miles. any tampering with mileage is considered a criminal action if not following your state guidelines.
if you plan on keeping the car i wouldn't worry about it, if you plan on selling it you may want to consider the above. if the mileage is very close, say less than 20k miles off and has above 150k i wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
just an FYI.
it is legal to modify or replace the cluster but most states require a door sticker and file the modification with new mileage versus old with the DMV. usually this also requires the work to be performed by a certified repair facility. so yes, you can legally install a 0 mile cluster in the car but it has to be documented and disclosed to any interested parties when selling it.
in most cases it isn't a big deal but still a matter of ethics and can be considered fraud if you replace it and do not do it properly as per above. most states carry a 7 year mileage record, beyond that the DMV stops recording mileage. the mileage on the cluster is treated as chassis miles, not engine miles. any tampering with mileage is considered a criminal action if not following your state guidelines.
if you plan on keeping the car i wouldn't worry about it, if you plan on selling it you may want to consider the above. if the mileage is very close, say less than 20k miles off and has above 150k i wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
just an FYI.
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; Nov 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM.
Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
replacing the cluster with a lower mile one is the same as modifying the original cluster.
it is legal to modify or replace the cluster but most states require a door sticker and file the modification with new mileage versus old with the DMV. usually this also requires the work to be performed by a certified repair facility. so yes, you can legally install a 0 mile cluster in the car but it has to be documented and disclosed to any interested parties when selling it.
in most cases it isn't a big deal but still a matter of ethics and can be considered fraud if you replace it and do not do it properly as per above. most states carry a 7 year mileage record, beyond that the DMV stops recording mileage. the mileage on the cluster is treated as chassis miles, not engine miles. any tampering with mileage is considered a criminal action if not following your state guidelines.
if you plan on keeping the car i wouldn't worry about it, if you plan on selling it you may want to consider the above. if the mileage is very close, say less than 20k miles off and has above 150k i wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
just an FYI.
it is legal to modify or replace the cluster but most states require a door sticker and file the modification with new mileage versus old with the DMV. usually this also requires the work to be performed by a certified repair facility. so yes, you can legally install a 0 mile cluster in the car but it has to be documented and disclosed to any interested parties when selling it.
in most cases it isn't a big deal but still a matter of ethics and can be considered fraud if you replace it and do not do it properly as per above. most states carry a 7 year mileage record, beyond that the DMV stops recording mileage. the mileage on the cluster is treated as chassis miles, not engine miles. any tampering with mileage is considered a criminal action if not following your state guidelines.
if you plan on keeping the car i wouldn't worry about it, if you plan on selling it you may want to consider the above. if the mileage is very close, say less than 20k miles off and has above 150k i wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
just an FYI.
I wouldn't think twice because I don't pay much heed to mileage.
A car that's in good shape is in good shape regardless of miles and low mileage is no guarantee of condition.
my car for example has 210k on the clock, many components have a fraction of that. for example the old tired clutch LSD is waiting for a series 5 viscous to go in that looks like it has less than 50k on it(not the best swap but the car is street driven and it's been years since it's seen the track or 1/4, will rebuild the clutch LSD and keep it as a spare). the transmission is about the only original piece left on the car, and it still works just fine.
the car lived most of its life in california so the chassis is still perfect. i've seen cars with much less miles that looked like they were waiting for the dirt to just cover the hole.
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; Nov 3, 2012 at 06:16 PM.
This is true. When cars get this old mileage doesn't matter, it's how they were maintained and how much you are willing to put into restoring them. I was just pointing out a fallacy.
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