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Old May 15, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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Angry New Engine/Turbo.. no start?????

Brand new street ported Engine, And T04 Turbo.
Here is the deal It turns over, I smell gas when i smell the exhaust, but it is not firing. I checked there is no spark, I removed the rats nest, and YEs i did check the fuel lines are placed correctly. I searched and tried the things that were in the search but none helped me, I can only hear the fuel pump working when I bridge that little plug under the hood and turn the key to the on position. I have plain Ran out of ideas , Yes the spark plug wires are new as are the plugs, and the wires are correctly attached.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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So there is no spark? Double check the CAS connector- I left it unplugged while I was trying to get mine going. Thankfully I noticed it after like 5 min.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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Checked and it is attached, if the cas is off will there be no spark on only spark in all the wrong times?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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Check the CAS. When you install the CAS the notch and dot at the bottom gear needs to stay aligned when you stick it back in. Take the black cap off and keep the pointer from moving. The timing needle on the front cover has to be aligned with the leading mark on the pulley when you stick the CAS in. Attach the connector , pull out the EGI fuse and pull out the plugs. Crank it a couple times to blow out whatever is in the combustion . Install the plugs and it should fire right up.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 02:02 AM
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Yes, make sure the CAS is aligned...can def. keep the car from starting. Mine was off and it woudn't fire.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 02:41 AM
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if the Cas is off won't it just spark at different intervals it seems as thaught i have no spark at all?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 03:05 AM
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Yes. Have you confirmed no spark? Pull the plugs out and lay them on the fender (still attached to the wires) and crank the car over. They should spark, if they dont there is something wrong between the CAS and the plugs.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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YOu can always leave the spark plugs in place and use an inductive timing light to verify spark...

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Old May 16, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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jrat; I did try the inductive timming light however no go! the light doesn't work for some fucked up reason! But thanx! DR0X I will try that, thanx!
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Old May 16, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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The light trick should have worked...Sounds like you may have a spark problem.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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yes it should have well i did hang the spark plugs over the fender and still no spark so there is a spark prob
but from where?
I cleaned my spark plugs, and reset the CAS. still nothing any other suggestions?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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You may have bad coils and ignitors.Try replacing them.
Or you may have loose connections at your coils or somewhere in the wiring.Check all your fuses.Also try to pull the codes from the computer.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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The coils+igniters are good. there is not a single code from the computer other than the 02 sensor, which is now fixed! so i still am at a stand still and hugely frusterated!
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Old May 16, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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oops sorry there is another code, i just rechecked it sais the AFM, and all of the sylanoids that i have removed. other than that nothing!
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Old May 16, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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Are you sure you getting fuel..the afm works in junction with the fuel pump..check to make sure its working and plugged in? I think you can push the flapper door open on your AFM to and see if you can hear the fuel pump....
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Old May 16, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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I am pretty certain i am getting fuel however the afm seems to be working,and in place and pluged in. however that negates the fact that I still have absolutely NO SPARK. But I am pretty sure i am getting fuel.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Old May 16, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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well to get my 88TII streetport started I had to pull start it to about 30-40 mph and engage the clutch and mash the gas, ran fine after that, it may have something to do with streetports making it harder for the car to build up sufficent compression, I'm going to be starting up my 2nd rebuild tommorrow, i'll keep you posted, try and crank it many times with the spark plugs out then put them back it, to break the apex seals loose....
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Old May 16, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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I have tried that however it will not start because of the fact that there is no spark, I am certain of it I have hung the spark plugs over the side of the fender all four none of which produced a spark making things extremely difficult to stat the engine i have no idea how come it will not spark
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Old May 17, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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Time to check the basics...You need to OHM out the CAS, and ensure the CAS connector is intact. There has to be a good reason that you have no spark. START at the CAS, thats the signal that tells the COILS to spark.

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Old May 17, 2003 | 12:10 AM
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what do you mean to ohm the cas? And the cas connector is intact and cleaned with new prongs!
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Old May 17, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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jrat; what if this were your case exactly what would you do starting from that cas cause maybe you can think of something that i have not?
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Old May 17, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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Old May 17, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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Have you tried everything Kevin suggested on the mailing list?
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