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Old 09-07-04, 08:45 PM
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New Electric Fan issue

My friends and I recently picked up a 1988 Mitsubishi Starion (turbo) for $200 which, incredibly, runs quite strongly. One of the things I want from it is the electric fan set up... I;ve heard u can get a lot of power from switching to electric fans and I was wondering if anyone had ever done this swap before. Also, when disabling the stock fan, would I just take it off the pully and leave the pully in place, or remove it all together?

The Starion uses two 12" electric fans, vs. the FC's 16" powered-fan. I figure it will be able to do the cooling job because the Starion motor is 2.6L and my n/a 13B is 1.3L x2...equalling the same size.


now before u all start bashing me for not using the search, let me point out that I diiiid that and now i just wanna know if anyone has done this specific swap. I;d be surprised if anyone has, but i was just wonderin

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not on a FC but i have swapped belt to electrical on ther cars.. theres a few ways to do it pending on your intrests..
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Old 09-07-04, 08:54 PM
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You're not gaining anything if you do stop & go (city) driving the majority of the time and have to have the e-fan on almost all of the time...This topic has been hashed and rehashed again & again...
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hahaha i wanna keep the motor as cool as possible. I guess I'd have to wire it to the battery, thermostat and then a swich, right?
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I know the topic of the usefullness of an electric fan has been beaten to death, i started this thread to see if anyone had done the swap i mentioned.
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to the battery and a switch u can do and toggle it off and on when u desire... or install a coolant temp switch to click power on and off via temp of the coolant
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on this peticular car nope.. but a e-fan install is the same in about every car u see.. doesnt really take alot of time or knowledge to do it =)
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go to www.rotaryresurrection.com , Kevin Landers has a write-up on the best way to install a e-fan
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Originally Posted by BlueSteel

The Starion uses two 12" electric fans, vs. the FC's 16" powered-fan. I figure it will be able to do the cooling job because the Starion motor is 2.6L and my n/a 13B is 1.3L x2...equalling the same size.
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How is your 13b 1.3l x2? i don't get what your'e saying
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Originally Posted by BlueSteel
I;ve heard u can get a lot of power from switching to electric fans...
You've been misinformed. You will gain pretty much zero extra power. It takes a certain amount of power to move a certain amount of air, and that power has to be provided by the engine. Whether the power comes from the engine directly (stock thermoclutch fan) or via the alternator (electric fan), the result is about the same.

Also, when disabling the stock fan, would I just take it off the pully and leave the pully in place, or remove it all together?
The pulley turns the water pump. Do not remove it...

The Starion uses two 12" electric fans, vs. the FC's 16" powered-fan. I figure it will be able to do the cooling job because the Starion motor is 2.6L and my n/a 13B is 1.3L x2...equalling the same size.
Fan size has little to do with engine capacity, but that doesn't matter anyway. The FC's radiator is only 22" wide, so the Starion fans will overhang the edges of the core. This means part of each fan will not be pulling air through core, and the actual airflow will be less than than what the stock fan achieves. Because the FC's radiator is basically square, you'll always cover more of the core and pull more air with one big fan.
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Hmmm. All I can say is, I'm glad this forum exists. thanx for the info guys.... ur responces deff. saved me from making some stuipd mistakes/waste a lot of time.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? DONT YOU EVEN DARE AND MESS WITH THE STARION.

are you for real? dude. im serious. do you have any idea on how much potential those cars have? try 300 hp with stock turbo with new head and thats about it. just upp the boost and fuel. the connecting rods are bulletproof, the block is also bullet proof. and how many turboed cars do you know that make a shitload more tq than hp? my friend had one with 250hpo and like 300 something lbs of tq.

if you dont want the starion, ill pick it up.

o wait, you live in boston, forget it.

also, the stock fan works fine. unless you get a bigger alt, dont get a stock fan, it might cool a bit more, but its pulling too much power forn that dinkey fc alt wich robs power so your doing a mod that has no purpose.
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hahaha i know man! When I picked the thing up I read up on it. It's got mad body rust though...

The fact of the matter is, I would like nothign more than to take a $200 car with serious potential and mod the **** out of it to make it sick. BUT frankly, im 17 years old and just cant afford a project like that. I need a car that;s actually semi-practical (you might ask, what am i doing driving an RX-7 right? I ask myself that all the time) I split the price with two of my friends and its in my buddies garage. We all called parts of it for our own cars, and then were gonna sell what nobody wants. We had to promise that we'd get rid of the car soon, so my friends mom would let us get it : ) hahaah.
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dude. dont sell it. plus body rust is easy to fix, trust me. fixinbg a 1962 impala isnt fun, and i bet it had way more. plus starions tend to last cus they are built strong as ****. keep it.
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i donno man....the fact that its ugly as hell doesnt help either. im sure it could be brought back to life, but theres just SO MUCH to pay for with a problem like that. it would suck to sink like $1000 into the motor just to get it running again and then have the struts go out or something. Besides, the mitsu 14G isnt reliable at all. i think there are like 5 starions on earth that are still living that are running the stock turbo.

dont think i dont see ur point tho, like i said i would totally do it if i could, but its not really a practical option.

if i find out parts for it are relativly affordable someone might b able to talk me into it
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there is a starion junkyard near my house and the guy who owns it hs 5 oerfectly runing starions, and one that is used at a strip hes runing about 450 hp with a haltec and a custome intake manifold, with a racetep head.

trust me, its more worth it than a 7. trusat me, just fucken trust me. an yes, tose engines are reliable, its just that the jet valve was put there for a gewd reason, but weekens the head and the heads crack. so get a new one that dont have jet valves. cmon man. use it. dont part it out. i will castrate you with a rusty spoon if you ever do that.
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Originally Posted by SirCygnus
there is a starion junkyard near my house and the guy who owns it hs 5 oerfectly runing starions, and one that is used at a strip hes runing about 450 hp with a haltec and a custome intake manifold, with a racetep head.

trust me, its more worth it than a 7. trusat me, just fucken trust me. an yes, tose engines are reliable, its just that the jet valve was put there for a gewd reason, but weekens the head and the heads crack. so get a new one that dont have jet valves. cmon man. use it. dont part it out. i will castrate you with a rusty spoon if you ever do that.
leave the kid alone. u dont even know what kinda condition the car is in. some people have better things to do then do a ground-up resto on a car that looks like a piece of ****. plus hes already said he doesnt have the money or the room to do it, so lay off
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