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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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ok i have a 87 N/A automatic little mods like cone air filter , 2.5 exhaust all the way back with one precat and one hight flow cat have the ports opening using the air pump.

ok here is the situations. just for fun and knowing i have rear wheel drive vehicle, i wanted to do a burn out for ones. so had my friend put some water down on the pavement. well needless to say no burn out no rubber no othing. i held the brakes down and floored it and the car started to move almost like i had no brakes. i figured thats what i need to do to do the burn out . hold the brake in while hitting the gas . should i have used the emegency brake or are my brakes going bad? any input would be great cause i deff need to prove myself now to him cause i thouhg for sure our 7 could burn a little rubber esp, with water on the pavement. can it be that my brakes are bad or should i have put hte car in 1 or 2 gear or have the button puched in for the overdrive? any help thanks .

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ok i know you have all seen those brackets you can get a jegs and autozone etc. to lower the vehicle. basically bracket for each spring on each wheel the compress the sping to the deisres hight. are made for trucks to lower them. can we use them or would that hurt our vehicles.

i know most of you will say get a 5 sp. and also say get some lower springs. put please post some helpful posts. as i already know get a 5 sp and get lowering springs. ps the idea about the lowering braces is for my friend. i dont want to see him put those on and cause an accident or hurt his car. let me know


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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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I dont have any 1st hand experience with the lowering things, but it doesnt seem like agood idea to me. My theory is, if you arent going to do something the "proper" way, dont bother doing it at all. About the burnouts, try not holding the brake so hard, just enough to stop you from going forward, but not as hard as you can. Still though, you are driving a 146HP car with only 138 ft/lbs torque, and an automatic transmission that sucks. Its not exactly a tire-smoker, so I wouldnt worry too much if you cant.
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Blame the lack of burned rubber on the auto tranny...
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Hmmmm.... My friend in his 96 V6 auto mustang (slow as **** and no power) can do burnouts with a break stand all day long, that's weird that you can't. Even though you definitely have less torque and power, I'd still think you'd be able to.
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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for some reason i have posted before and all of these folks on here kept saying how our cars can do burnouts even N/A wiht auto. i mean the 1st time i just firmly pressed on the brake but as soon as i would push on the gas the car would go forward. then i applied the brake more and more but car just kept going. and then i cam back to the spot with the water and held the brake in all the way and the car again dirregarded the brakes and went forward. no spin in tires at all the only thing that was smoking or spinning were the laughs from my G-friend and my friends. pretty imbarrising when you talk trash and cant even do a little burn out with water on the pavement.

as far as the brackets go for the springs i didnt think it would hurt the car but i figured i would ask.

any more thoughs please post.

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 12:09 AM
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You cannot press the brakes hard at all. The way it works is you lightly press the brake just enough to get the front calipers to clamp since most of your braking power is on them. And that will hold you from going forward. I do it all the time in my 94 Toyota pickup that I drive for work, and its a pos with the clutch down to the rivets and rod knock.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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Hehe good luck. I had a '89 auto with a cone filter and straight piped and that thing wouldn't even chirp. I did the 5 speep swap and I can light the tires up easily. Befoer you do any mods dump that automatic. I picked up 3 seconds on the 1/4 and cut my 0-60 nearly in half. But unless you use soapy water on an incline of some sort you won't ever be able to burn your tires. Unless you drop it in nuetral to drive at 7k rpm. The day before I did my swap I did that in my auto. Squeeled the tires a little but nothing impressive. Swap a 5 speed and you will have a blast with your car.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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well i guess i just have to take the embarissing coments and cant show up this weekend and do it right. like i said holding the brakes lightly wont do any good for me cause the car drives of and wont stay still if i lightly stay on the brakes or even put it to the ground.

no anyone else have any suggestions for the lowering brackets? my homz is going to attempt this tomrrow and i the more info i can find the better .
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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get some EBC or Hawk brake pads for the front and replace all your fluid.

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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You really need to stop the kiddie stuff...


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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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so some of you are suggesting its the breaks?
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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well if they suck they aren't going to hold the car.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
You really need to stop the kiddie stuff...


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No kidding. You want to lower the car? Get proper springs. And you won't be doing any burnouts in an Auto N/A RX7. You usually have to get the RPM's up around 5k and then let the clutch out (in a 5spd of course) to get the wheels spinning a little. Then you quickly get on the brakes just a little bit. From there you can just hold it and roast em. I've always had to get them spinning via a clutch dump first though.

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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dude my friend has an auto ACR neon and he just floored it and did a burnout by accident. i know a stock rx7 can beat him because we had the race of the hellishly slow stock cars one day...
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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FWD versus RWD...it's not the same.


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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by powrdby13B
dude my friend has an auto ACR neon and he just floored it and did a burnout by accident. i know a stock rx7 can beat him because we had the race of the hellishly slow stock cars one day...

I have a feeling you don't know what a burnout is. I'm not talking about screeching the wheels a little on takeoff. I mean roasting the wheels for up to a minute while the car doesn't move. The neon did not do that accidentally unless your friend was holding the brake...in which case it would not be an accident.

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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RETed, is that girl in your avatar, one that you met at the track? Can I have her number and name? My name is Josh, tell her that I'll be calling when I get around to it. Plz pm me her name and number though
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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It's your brakes. The car I got for my girl is an 86 auto, it can burn out every time. It's pretty much stock. very low key exaust.
As for the clamps. they suck. My buddy put some on his truck and they kept falling off. Plus, the ride is really poor.
do it right, or don't do it. You will thank yourself later.
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