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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 12:57 AM
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aight first of all this isnt for me i am doing it for a friend...so with that said heres the question....he wants to drop a v8 engine in his 89 NA....preferably the ls1...if he gets the kit from grannys speed shop and then buys a new ls1 crate engine is that all he needs to do or does he need to buy anything else?
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 11:51 AM
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 12:01 PM
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An LS1 is a $8000 crate motor with all the excessories and all. I have a friend just bought one for his 68 Camaro. THAT doesnt include a tranny to handle all the power. Last time I checked a new T56 was like $3200. Salvage yards know what new ones go for and how in demand these pieces are the yards around DFW (dallas/ft worth) are asking $6-10k depending on the year but that does include everything. BUT no warrenty either unlike then new ones.

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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by PaulC
An LS1 is a $8000 crate motor with all the excessories and all. I have a friend just bought one for his 68 Camaro. THAT doesnt include a tranny to handle all the power. Last time I checked a new T56 was like $3200. Salvage yards know what new ones go for and how in demand these pieces are the yards around DFW (dallas/ft worth) are asking $6-10k depending on the year but that does include everything. BUT no warrenty either unlike then new ones.

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A new T-56 sells for around $2,000 USD, but I agree with everything else.
http://www.darkhorseperformance.com/gm/g_tc.html

I think that everything is covered by the web site:
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/2...x7chevyv8.html

Um, does the LS1 "crate" motor come with a flywheel, clutch, ECU, ignition, etc.? If it does, then your friend is still looking at spending about $14,000 USD on this project. Wouldn't it be easier just to buy a good used Camaro?

BTW, your friend could install a 550 hp 20BREW for about the same price as the 400 hp LS1.
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 04:26 PM
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where could he find the 20B and how reliable is it...he was goin to buy a 3rd gen but the unreliabilty turned him away from it...i dont know whats in the crate motor all i know is what he told me..does anyone know if the crate motor comes with everything you need? he found it for 4995 new
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 03:11 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by DuCeY DuCe
where could he find the 20B and how reliable is it...he was goin to buy a 3rd gen but the unreliabilty turned him away from it...i dont know whats in the crate motor all i know is what he told me..does anyone know if the crate motor comes with everything you need? he found it for 4995 new
If your friend thinks that he can jury-rig a car together and maintain reliability with high performance, then he is living in La-La Land. It sounds to me like he needs to get a new Mustang or Camaro with a nice warranty, or maybe he can wait a few years and buy a new RX-8.

You can get a 20B-REW from Corksport and other importers for about $4,000 USD. Note that the 20B conversion isn't all that easy, either, although it will work with a TII drivetrain. Example:
http://www.cris.com/~Asam/20B.html

That $4995 price sounds like a short block. If your friend doesn't know the difference between a short block and a long block, and doesn't know what is included in any of the $$$ packages that he is considering, then he should just go ahead and order whatever he likes because he can ask Darwain all about it later on.
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