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Old 10-06-03, 09:43 AM
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need help asap car won't start no spark

My car will not start. It does turn over but it wont start. I Have fuel, and air but NO spark. None of the plugs are fireing (took them out one by one, held them to the block and checked for spark. none of them sparked) I changed both coil packs with known good ones but there still is no spark. What else could it be?
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CAS plugged in?
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Measure for 12V at plug that connects to the ignitors. I forget which wires, but looking it up in the service manual at http://www.fc3s.org will give you the info. No 12V? Start checking the EGI fuse and related.

If you have 12v, then go through the CAS testing procedure also found in the manual.
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Couldnt find the CAS testing procedure also found in the manual is there anyway you know where its at or what you need to do?
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Did you check for 12V at the ignitors?
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replaced the crank angle sensor, gold relay by the shock tower, egi fuse, injection fuse, and coil packs, and still nothing
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Originally posted by J-Rat
Did you check for 12V at the ignitors?
I got 12v on the leading but nothing on the trailing
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well, lets start from the beginning.

What was the situation that lead you to this point? New battery perhaps?

Now, here is a quick check. Have you made your ECU tester lights yet? Reason I ask is, you can check to make sure the ECU is online. Because if it crapped out, then your chasing your tail.

Here is the link:

http://www.teamfc3s.org/info/article...odes/main.html

The ECU should light both lights for 3-5 seconds right when the key is turned to "on".

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Did the light tester thing and nothing happened no lights come up at all. I know it works because I used it a while back. Does that mean the ECU is bad? Can I swap a 86 ecu for my 88? Because I have a 86 parts car and my car is a 88
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I think for diagnostic testing, and as long as both models are N/A, you can swap them. But its for TESTING only.

YOu wouldnt have happened to swap your battery cables, did you?

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No I didn't do anything with the battery or cables. I washed my car(not engine) pulled out parked it and wanted to leave wouldn't start
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Are you sure I can do it even for testing because the 86 used resistor injectors(needs resistor pack) and the 88 doesn't
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No, dont try to run the car... Just plug it in and see if you get the Diag lights
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Originally posted by J-Rat
No, dont try to run the car... Just plug it in and see if you get the Diag lights
I put the 86 in and both lights come up for 5 secs and then it doesn't throw any codes. So I guess I need a new ECU. Thanks a bunch for your help.

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Just curious...How are you checking for spark?

If you have an oscilloscope, you can check the other wire at the leading (the one that doesn't show constant 12V with the key on "RUN") for a pulse train as the car cranks.
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I don't have a o-scope. To check for spark I am removing plug, leaving it attached to the wire, and touching the plug to the block and watching for spark
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Originally posted by stupify
I put the 86 in and both lights come up for 5 secs and then it doesn't throw any codes. So I guess I need a new ECU. Thanks a bunch for your help.
Hope that you get the car running!

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