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Old 04-24-04, 08:33 PM
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NEED HELP ASAP! Car Caught fire!

Well I hooked everything up today on my turbo conversion.

I put the battery in and put the key ion the ignition.

The guages worked fine and then I went to crank it over.

Then......BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see smopke rising from under the hood.

The starter caught fire!!!!

I ran and got a hose and drenched my engine bay and luckily it didn't get to the fuel lines.

I saw the aftermath.

The rubber boot around the starter blew apart and was then burning.

SOOOOO.

WTF did I do wrong????

I did bleed the clutch line about a half hour before and some brake fluid ran down the side. ou think that caused it?

I am thinking that plus maybe wrong wiring.

I checked all my fuses and they're still good so it looks like it stayed in that spot.

This is how I had the wires put on.

The one main hardnesws wire went to the starter. Then the other big gage wire went to a bolt as a ground.

Did i mix it up?

Thx in advance. I have to get this running tonight!

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Old 04-24-04, 09:08 PM
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up.

I checked the wires and they seem to be in the correct spots. any thoughts?
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The rubber boot on the main +ve terminal of the starter fried?

What size fuse are you running inline with that wire, must be HUGE if it didn't break...

Also im a bit unsure with your grounds...

Which 'other' big guage wire?
Where does it run exactly? there is no ground that runs directly off the starter you know?
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The ground wire from the battery goes to the engine block as a ground. I put mine on the big bolt that goes through starter, tranny bell housing, engine, ground cable, then a nut on the end.

The positive goes to the starter solenoid. There are two terminals on the starter solenoid that are the same size. One should already have a wire coming on it. This wire comes out of the starter motor body and goes to a terminal on the solenoid. The positive from the battery goes to the other terminal on the solenoid. Then, the ignition wire goes on the tab, can't get that wrong.

Make sure the cables are connected to the battery properly and are not grounding against anything. And don't spray water on an electrical fire. I guess you had no choice, but its always good to have a dry chemical (type A, B, and C) fire extinguisher handy.
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Yeah I didn't have a choice.
The fire was getting big.

I think I figured out what happened.

The positive terminal which connects to the starter was resting against the metal side of the starter. I think it arc'd and just started the fire.

I've just wrapped it in electrical tape a lot and have bent the positive out so it is away from the side.

As soon as that happened I pulled the keys out of thenignition so power stopped going throuigh the start wires at that point. I have the negative barely on this time so I can yank it quickly off and then spray the **** out of any fire that might occur.
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Originally posted by White_FC

What size fuse are you running inline with that wire, must be HUGE if it didn't break...

there is no fuse on the starters
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Originally posted by Scott 89t2
there is no fuse on the starters
Ah my bad, I actually thought this guy had a relocated battery, but obviously not.
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yup that was it. It arc'd to the side.

I got it to turn over now.


Now here is the new problem!!!!!!

I got it running anndddd............
It rev'd up because the throttle cable is really tight.
How dpo I reduce it?add slack?

NEXT!!!!!!!!
It started running and I saw the rev's going up so I pulled the keys out of the igntion and it KEPT GOING!!?

What would have caused it to do this? Anyone done it before?

I ended up pushing the throttle all the way down to kill the engine.

PLS Help
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Pretty much it must have a problem with the ignition since it won't shut off even with the keys out.

Any one have this problem before?
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looks like you got fuel on the starter. isn't the fuel filter right next to that thing.
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oh forgot you have a turbo now.
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standalone ecu still fireing?
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damn my heart dropped when i read the title and saw you posted it... i thought you were gonna say that beautiful engine you got went ablaze... glad it didnt do any other damage... whew... i bet your heart dropped even more than mine and you stopped breathing didnt you huh
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Pheeeww thought something bad happened to your baby! Dont really have any ideas to help you out just thought I would say im glad it didnt burn down to the ground!
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Originally posted by Digi7ech
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Pretty much it must have a problem with the ignition since it won't shut off even with the keys out.

Any one have this problem before?
Try this. Remove both of the small wires from the alternator and start the car again and try to shut it off. Let us know if this solved your problem.
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hhmmm what do you think this would do?

So your speaking of the ring terminal wire and the 2 wire plug for the warning lights.

I really want to under stand this before I try it again since the throttle cable is set really tight and the rpm's for to aroudn 5k which I instantly tried to stop.

So the next time I turn it over I'll have soime one sitting neat the EGI fuse ready to pul in case it goes too high.
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so... losen the throttle cable! you will find a few nuts on it near where it attaches to the intake manifold, figure out how to losen it and then do so!
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