NA's with T2 hoods
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In medeival England, shortly after the first wave of the Black Plague the English nobles tried to pass a series of laws restricting what peasants could wear because many peasants were acquiring new wealth and emulating the dress of the nobles. It was becoming harder and harder to tell the difference appearance wise between a noble and a peasant. The reaction was quite funny really. Some things never change.
My main objection to cosmetic mods involves the fact that most of them are garish and ugly imo. However, I think TII owners will agree that TII hoods are not ugly. Why, then, is it suprising that non TII owners would also find it attractive?
For the TII owners worried about getting mistaken for N/As, why does that matter? Seriously. Unless your ***** are just completely wrapped around the axle who cares if the few people that know enough about RX-7s to know the difference think that you might, possibly, be an N/A? Go watch Fight Club a few times or something.
<Tyler Durden voice>
"You are not the clothes you wear, you are not the car you drive, you are not your f*cking khakis.
</Tyler Durden voice>
My main objection to cosmetic mods involves the fact that most of them are garish and ugly imo. However, I think TII owners will agree that TII hoods are not ugly. Why, then, is it suprising that non TII owners would also find it attractive?
For the TII owners worried about getting mistaken for N/As, why does that matter? Seriously. Unless your ***** are just completely wrapped around the axle who cares if the few people that know enough about RX-7s to know the difference think that you might, possibly, be an N/A? Go watch Fight Club a few times or something.
<Tyler Durden voice>
"You are not the clothes you wear, you are not the car you drive, you are not your f*cking khakis.
</Tyler Durden voice>
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I dont see anything wrong with a v8 in an rx-7...if someone loves the look of the rx-7 but they want the v8 motor then go for it...i think it looks pretty cool...i dont put down anyone for doing something to there car.. i may not like it but i keep it to myself...
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I give up, too many posts of the same thing, flame flame flame! To flame the rice, or to just plain deal with it and eat it raw. I don't know about you, but I'm starting to like the idea of uncooked rice!
#80
Originally posted by t_mak@mail.plymouth.edu
I've had both NA and T2 hood. I dont know what you guys are bragging about how your T2 hood is lighter. The NA hood is lighter, probably stronger too because it is more rigid. As for performance, I will be damned if you claim that your T2 hood will give you more performance. Hell the only thing that gave me was headache from the nasty wind noise above 70mph.
I've had both NA and T2 hood. I dont know what you guys are bragging about how your T2 hood is lighter. The NA hood is lighter, probably stronger too because it is more rigid. As for performance, I will be damned if you claim that your T2 hood will give you more performance. Hell the only thing that gave me was headache from the nasty wind noise above 70mph.
(By the way that was sarcasm, wasn't sure if you could pick that up.)
#82
thread too long
Yep, well there certainly is a debate but the thread is getting too long.
At the end of the day, this is life. People will do what they want to do.
There are arguments both ways.
Either way, we just have to agree to disagree. I'm just glad that there are a lot of others with rx-7s.
So long as people are living their dream with the rx-7 and the rotary engine then it's better than nothing.
I drove 1200km to buy a Series 5 TII. My only "real life" beef was getting excited about a guy who had posted a 90 in the autotrader and it turned out to be an NA with a TII hood. Dissapointment, that's all.
Hopefully, there will be big threads like this over something more technical.
Cheers
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At the end of the day, this is life. People will do what they want to do.
There are arguments both ways.
Either way, we just have to agree to disagree. I'm just glad that there are a lot of others with rx-7s.
So long as people are living their dream with the rx-7 and the rotary engine then it's better than nothing.
I drove 1200km to buy a Series 5 TII. My only "real life" beef was getting excited about a guy who had posted a 90 in the autotrader and it turned out to be an NA with a TII hood. Dissapointment, that's all.
Hopefully, there will be big threads like this over something more technical.
Cheers
/F/
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fact is, i would use a T2 hood if i had one. for 2 reasons..... cool looks, and weight savings..... more for weight savings though.
anyone who feels embarassed about an N/A with a T2 hood has to much time on thier hands. may as well take off my spoiler...... and you guys with body kits? hell take that crap off too.... makes your car look faster than it is......
foolish huh? ya......
anyone who feels embarassed about an N/A with a T2 hood has to much time on thier hands. may as well take off my spoiler...... and you guys with body kits? hell take that crap off too.... makes your car look faster than it is......
foolish huh? ya......
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Originally posted by BlackSport0187
Hey you've got us there man. Steel is lighter than aluminum......
(By the way that was sarcasm, wasn't sure if you could pick that up.)
Hey you've got us there man. Steel is lighter than aluminum......
(By the way that was sarcasm, wasn't sure if you could pick that up.)
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hmmm i guess people just dont understand.......
if i saw an n/a with a turbo hood id tell the guy it looks cool, cause it would. i wouldnt tell the guy hes a loser cause his car isnt a turbo model.
thats exactly what you guys are doing, even if you choose to use fancy language and reasoning. people need to get off thier high horses and accept that people arent always gonna like what you like.
i appreciate all 7's.....
if i saw an n/a with a turbo hood id tell the guy it looks cool, cause it would. i wouldnt tell the guy hes a loser cause his car isnt a turbo model.
thats exactly what you guys are doing, even if you choose to use fancy language and reasoning. people need to get off thier high horses and accept that people arent always gonna like what you like.
i appreciate all 7's.....
#86
Basically, you guys are just being elitist because you get a nifty hood with a scoop from the factory and we don't. I'm sure that scoop does wonders for your coefficient of drag. Wait a minute...does that make it...rice? Slowing down the car and not providing any more downforce (not that that isn't rice either)...I think so
The people who know that a scoop makes the difference between turbo and non-turbo are so few and far between that it's really a moot point. I had people asking me if my car was a turbo all the time before I got the hood. They still ask me now, not that that makes a difference. They see a sporty jap car, they think turbo.
The people who know that a scoop makes the difference between turbo and non-turbo are so few and far between that it's really a moot point. I had people asking me if my car was a turbo all the time before I got the hood. They still ask me now, not that that makes a difference. They see a sporty jap car, they think turbo.
#87
Originally posted by Mazdarules
There are a lot of aluminum NA hoods. Many T2 hoods are steel, so don't think of it as a weight upgrade. fyi the NA aluminum hood is lighter then the T2 aluminum. People, stop trying to make up arguments for putting them on your car, you don't want them for function, you want them for looks. That is a rice move, it's not a T2 so no t2 hoods for me.
There are a lot of aluminum NA hoods. Many T2 hoods are steel, so don't think of it as a weight upgrade. fyi the NA aluminum hood is lighter then the T2 aluminum. People, stop trying to make up arguments for putting them on your car, you don't want them for function, you want them for looks. That is a rice move, it's not a T2 so no t2 hoods for me.
How is taking an RX-7 part and putting it on another RX-7 a rice move? Do you even know what you are talking about? The funny thing is that "ricers" buy all sorts of body kits and fancy lighting, I'll I'm doing is saving a little weight, and dressing up my already fine automobile in the process. Mazda factory parts look better than that aftermarket crap anyway.
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good point black sport... Its a factory part on the same f-in car.. And the diff between the t11 and na is like what 40hp ... big deal. I can get that with bolt ons.
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Originally posted by BlackSport0187
How is taking an RX-7 part and putting it on another RX-7 a rice move? Do you even know what you are talking about? The funny thing is that "ricers" buy all sorts of body kits and fancy lighting, I'll I'm doing is saving a little weight, and dressing up my already fine automobile in the process. Mazda factory parts look better than that aftermarket crap anyway.
Ike
How is taking an RX-7 part and putting it on another RX-7 a rice move? Do you even know what you are talking about? The funny thing is that "ricers" buy all sorts of body kits and fancy lighting, I'll I'm doing is saving a little weight, and dressing up my already fine automobile in the process. Mazda factory parts look better than that aftermarket crap anyway.
Ike
Do know what I'm talking about? wtf is this, oh yeah I disagree with you so I must be bullshitting.
The T2 hood makes the car look like a T2, and that is rice, if you don't have a turbo then quit pretending. Even if you don't think it's rice, you can't argue the fact that it disrespects T2 owners. I bet most of you would agree that a civic DX with a type R sticker is rice Right? so I ask you what is the difference? You say that it's different because the hood scoop actually looks good unlike the type R sticker, well the owner of the honda thinks it looks good. hmmm..... sounds like people are overcompensating for the lack of turbo power on their NA's, give it up just enjoy your NA and quit pretending. Just for the record I DO NOT OWN A T2 I just respect them.
von:
the stock difference may only be 40hp but we all know what the potential is.
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U dont put on Type R stickers for looks... Your telling people your fast. A t11 hood does look good and ansewer this one... If the t11 hood originally came on the N/A . We would all still put them on I bet because they LOOK BETTER.. dont u think Mazdarules. And I dont see a hol lot of difference between aftermarket bodykits and hoods for the N/A than putting on T11 hood. The aftermarket seems ricyer than the other... And dont be so sensitive on the subject. Some people are sounding like the miata forum members.
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if i could chime in i think this thread is hillarious and all you turbo FC owners are OOZING with hypocracy. You sit here citing "turbo envy" and flaming the hell out of N/A models of your same car and how much worse and how your cars are more "expensive and faster" and then you hear one little inkling of snobishness coming from FD owners about how their cars are better then yours (which stock vs stock they are btw) you cry and bitch and whine about the snobby FD owners and how much of generation discriminating bastards they are. "the rotary engine was in a lot more then just the FD, your car is not that special"
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Originally posted by von
U dont put on Type R stickers for looks... Your telling people your fast.
U dont put on Type R stickers for looks... Your telling people your fast.
There are a lot of things that are more rice then a T2 hood, but it's still rice.
Man, I make one drunk post and suddenly every NA boy that wants to be a T2 gets their panties all twisted. Anyways whatever lets agree to disagree.
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Originally posted by driftin180sx
if i could chime in i think this thread is hillarious and all you turbo FC owners are OOZING with hypocracy.
if i could chime in i think this thread is hillarious and all you turbo FC owners are OOZING with hypocracy.
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Sorry but u have two cars for usually the same price.. they look exactly the same. Ones just slightly faster than a modded one and the little scoop is sopose to mean rice... I cant ever agree with u. EVER. Im sorry but U R WRONG... Like anyones going to care in a race anyways especially when thiers over 400hp vipers mustangs comarows and other monster ****. That little scoop is so insognificant that you guys who disagree are living in your own world that is probly different from reality. NO OFFENSE.
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Originally posted by Mazdarules
Same thing with the T2 hood, you are telling people you are fast and that you have a turbo, but you don't.
There are a lot of things that are more rice then a T2 hood, but it's still rice.
Man, I make one drunk post and suddenly every NA boy that wants to be a T2 gets their panties all twisted. Anyways whatever lets agree to disagree.
Same thing with the T2 hood, you are telling people you are fast and that you have a turbo, but you don't.
There are a lot of things that are more rice then a T2 hood, but it's still rice.
Man, I make one drunk post and suddenly every NA boy that wants to be a T2 gets their panties all twisted. Anyways whatever lets agree to disagree.
I guess all those American cars with cowl hoods are all rice too huh?
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WAIT A MINUTE WHAT IS THE POINT OF A SLEEPER AGAIN ISN'T IT TO FOOL YOUR OPPONENT INTO THINKING THAT YOUR SOMETHING YOUR NOT? IF YOU WERE AT A STREET RACE WOULDN'T YOU WANT ALL THE ADVANTAGE YOU CANIF SOME ONE COMES UP AND SAYS "IS THAT A TURBO" AND YOU SAY 50 BUCKS ISN'T THAT AN ADVANTAGE?? I MEAN COME ON BY THIS REASONING THE FORD MUSTANG IS RICE BECAUSE IT COMES FROM THE FACTORY WITH A NON FUNCTIONING HOOD SCOOP THAT'S JUST FOR LOOKS!! THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THREAD THAT I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME.
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