ok,well last night i was listening to my friend talk about riding in a nitrous powered car and he says its actually a fun thing,cuz unfortunately,in the movie fast and furious its actually similar to the boost(he goes to UTI and had a 500hp drag car..so im assuming his scale of n2o is like 200 shots) so ya this got me thinking ,rather than get a turbo 2 engine and throwing it into a s4. i could get a 13b and just bridge port it and get the carbon apex seals and throw a 200 shot in it...now does anyone know if thats even a good idea..or stupd as ****..i dunno,i want to...but most people would call me stupid as hell

i dunno,just wanted to see what people thought and if thare was a better way to get more power(w/o a turbo)

 

Depends on what you're trying to beat.

 

ya i kinda noticed that when i was leaving,ya i wanna make the car for high speed racing,like highway racing..(i dont think i ma llowed to say that o nthsi website)...but ya anything fast enough,i know id have to get a t2 tranny and a new clutch and injectors anbd stuff...i dunno,like fast enough to beat:

damn civics/integras that are completely built up
stock 3000gt's
modified 5.0 mustangs
firebirds/camaros
350 z/g35
and the occasional evo/wrx


mainly cars i see alot of

esentially i want to get to top end...id pretty much be using it in 4th/5th gear..and the occasional 3rd...unlikely though

 

Cheaper in the short run, more expensive in the long run. Do it right, and you will be happy.

 

what do you mean "the right way"

 

wet nitrous with tuning.

 

Go turbo unless you want to have to refill your bottles all the time.

Just what WAY do you want to beat 'common cars', exactly? There are many:

Turbos, nitrous, really far-done NA builds with stripped out interiors. Swaps to 20b or v8s.

Each has their own pros and cons.

 

That's cool!! You can add a lot of NO2 to an 13b engine, but you will need a better apex seals like atkins or hurley racing. I have 3 friends that run 13b with NO2. One use 250 hp of NO2 in his 13b. The other one use 150hp in his 13b car with Holley carb. and the last one use from 300hp to 400 hp of NO2 in his 13b. The first and the last one use electronic fuel injection. One use the Sakura engine management (www.sakuramotorsports.com)system and the other use Electromotive Tec3 engine management system This are 8 seconds to 10 seconds car in a 1/4 mile.

 

200 shot in a street FC?
You gotta be kidding me...


-Ted

 

and how come is it all the peoplw from puerto rico know everything about rotaries,theyre probably better than the japaneese....wh,not my problem,just my advantage...but waht if im using fuel injection rather than a carb???

 

oh ya and for what way i want to beat cars...i dunno when were hittin like 150 i want to be able to pull away with enough speed to be considered a win

 

You can't just slap on a 150 shot on a stock car and expect it to stay together, even on ONE RUN.

Your friend's car built for the NOS?
What did he do to the engine to prep it for NOS?

Can you confirm if it was a 200 shot or even a 150 shot?


-Ted

 

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really you dont have to upgrade injectors just for the Nitrous (if its a wet kit). Fuel is sprayed in with the N20 at the nosel with a wet kit. If you briged ported your motor you would need bigger injectors but as far as smaller amounts of N20 you can run it on a stock motor (50 HP). But engine managment will be almost reqiured for big shots so you can retard the timing to be safe. An NA motor built up like the guys that run big boost will hold big nitrous just as well. 3mm apex seals being the first step, a MUCH better fuel system as a second, and a drivetrain would be 3rd, engine management 4th those are pretty much the most important things. Nihilanthic made a good point. Do do this to be fast, because there are much easier ways. Do it because you want to... and have fun refilling your bottles very often (depending on how much you run the N20). Not to flame but its NOT NOS. NOS is a brandname (Nitrous Oxide Systems [by Holly]... i think) and a term thought up by the makers of the Fast and the Furious.

 

Dry systems require you to upgrade the injectors.

Tuning is where its at FCGuy, tuning comes first! You'll blow it all before you get threw your "steps".

I suggest you read:

Http://www.1300cc.com and read the nitrous section.

 

I was very close to spraying my car, an 88 nonturbo. I went ahead and bought the kit even. Then I realized that the N/A drivetrain is going to bust on me... I'm already putting 160 to the wheels with my mods.

 

n/a drivetrain will hold fine, not like your launching on N20.. just take it easy and your fine.
Second nitrous is fun to do some nice pulls on straits.. but if you want to be doing 150mph.. and then pull some more.. your going to need one big tank, and alot of fuel.. with some kind of engine manegment... no to mention alot of suspention/tire upgrade, and brakes... those are some high speeds.

Engine build? Stock engine should be fine.. unless its got over 80k on it.. Most drag guys run stock seals.. my buddy runs stock seals on his street port gsl-se motor pushing over 800hp on a T88.

And if your plaining on doing this on the streets... sell your car before you die and worse.. kill someone else for your reckless driving.

If your doing 1/4 drag racing.. turbo would be the best option.. although a n20 sytem would make for a fun time at the strip.. although don't expect your times to drop to much.. you'll get 1/2 -1second if lucky.

 

well ,thanx for the help people...and the whole referral to the word NOS..i know whare it came from...unfortunately,,,i used to be a ricer..and loved fwd hondas and B16's and Vtech...well on with the story,,ya this is a car im planning on using on the streets..only on empty ones though,im nto your average guy who will roll up t oa civic with a fart can and race them,i mmore the guy who'd driving o na highway and see some ******* with an integra who believes hes a badass and he can beat anyone cuz hes got a BMX (ripoff of bomex) body kit,and a set of exhaust tips he got from walmart...and then pull away quick,not hit anything amazing,and then thares them rich bastards with porsches..ya those are the fun ones im out to get and actually do stupid ****...only at late nights cuz i get out of work at 11 at night...and no ones out at that time of night,i barel see cars,,,a few race ones...nothing really amazing though

 

It's VTEC. =p

 

Well don't get your hopes up.. you won't be able to hang with the rich bastards... they will just laugh at you for trying.. thats if they deside to play.. I have trouble keeping up with some porsches.. although most bmw are waste of gas.. then again this is nice agrisive street port, 3" turbo back on a 1700lb car.. over 10k into engine/drivetrain work alone.. so don't get your hopes up with amberresing rich bastards.. they will just laugh at you while they rape you a new one.

Have fun with the car, take it to some auto cross events and track days.. learn how to drive. That would be alot more fun then wrecking your car and killing somone..

Well have fun. Stay safe.

 

well i have taken it out a few times,and not to mention i have NO rx7 as it stands right now,im stuck wit a caprice classic with a 305 bored .30 over...but ya i remember my first time trying to race a porsche...ya bad idea...thaers a reason theyre so damn expensive..i was in fourth doing liek mabye 100ish and i pulled up next to a 911 turbo(not sure if theyre made non turbo...i only know rotaries) and ..ya so i decided to pull away,so i get up to like 140/150..ya he blew by me w/o even trying...that was a ball buster..rich people...a league of theyre own...but i can dream right?

and ketracel..ok Vtec/vtech....theyre bot hmade for children (vtech was thius company who used to make this wierd *** toy robot for children,,i used to haev one,,and that was just yesterday...oh the memories)

 

I would go with a smaller shot so you don't hurt your engine. Nos is known away to eat away at internals.

 

Please for the love of god stop "wruting lakeuit thas" and write a normal sentence, it's really not that hard to complete one!

 

sorry,its like 2 in the morning every time i write stuff,i work all day...not to mention i type real fast,and as you can see...my wriiting dosent come out all that good

 

Take the time to type properly. Slow down if needed. Use an OS/browser that has a built in spell check.

You can be the smartest person on the planet, ut ifu typ eliek thsi evry1 wl thkn ur an idot.

It's reality. Get used to it.

Back on topic, what kind of budget do you have for this project? A well built turbo setup would be a better option for beating expensive cars - you can use nitrous as well to help spool the turbos & give you the initial kick. There are 3rd gen guys beating Hayabusas on the highway from a roll. They also have massive amounts of money invested in their car, and some of them seem to be rebuilding engines more than driving (600-700 WHP doesn't take much of a glitch to blow the engine).

-=Russ=-