Are you kidding me? We are talking about twin turbocharged NSXs here. I've never seen an N/A NSX make anywhere CLOSE to 550.

 

Now you just sound like a kid who reads too many magazines. You read that an NSX can't make over 550hp, and you read that a Supra can make 900, so now the NSX block isn't enough for you.

 

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=89509

How to make 550BHP cheap and reliable, on pump gas.

Just have to know how it's done. Peter knows, and his car reflects that.

 

i dont think it is a turd,but its no tII. it is way more fun in turns true.

 

I agree. Honda's are nice cars, they just are not fast. Same with a N/A FC. Great car for a daily driver, slow as ****.

Is my point finally clear (N/A 13b RX7 = SLOW)?

 

yes your OPINION is clear

 

You still haven't got it. How blunt do I need to be?

NSX = waste of money.

Do you understand that?

Yes - I read the block was weak. Suddenly magazines can't have reliable information? How far off topic do we need to go?

 

Look, Unique, I've always liked your posts. You keep it real, real laid back.

Here is the point. 550bhp is CRAZY in that car, but... 13B = 2.6 liters of displacement, and can achieve 550bhp for far less $$, on pump gas, and not be at the mechanical thresholds of the engine by any means. NSX = 3.2 liters of displacement. It was not, however, designed to hold those kind of combustion pressures, simple as that. The problem is not vol efficiency, it's not an inability to rev, it's simply strength and $$.

 

sorry, its not too too clear. they are slow in u'r opinion okay. BUT...is it fast enough to beat evryday normal cars, like a ford probe lets say, or an eagle talon n/a, cars like that.???

 

You've already made it known you are dense. Please, stop talking.

 

Anything is possible.

Again, buy a Turbo II. - If you already have an N/A RX7, turbo it. It doesn't cost that much.

 

kenny, oh wise one, teach me how to be as smart as you, please. btw i am being sarcastic and you are an idiot

 

I am not particularly a fan of the NSX either, but that's just the car that happened to get a response. From a racer's standpoint, they are good cars to mod. That's the original point I was trying to make. They do well in the Speed GT class and are quite able road racers. Getting 550hp out of one was not something I was going to bring up, because, like an RX-7, they aren't made for huge power. When the NSX came out, it was an amazing car and was rather impressive. 10 years later, with no major design or powerplant changes, it's yawn-worthy, and can't possibly be worth 80 grand IMO. The whole reason I said anything about them was because of the original Honda comment. Now that I think about it, a Civic or Integra would be a lot better of a car to mod than the two I mentioned.

 

So you think you are a smart, hijo de la gran cuera del barrio!

Come to PR, and I'll show you what a 12A NA can do, then we'll go to the 13b NA In the mid 70's lots of people argue on why modifying a rotary engine, well because it was fun, and we could race the V8 in the 1/4 mile. Don't believe me, just ask on the Rotary Performance section on this forum, OR call Racing Beat and ask them what was the result when they brought their car to PR in the 80's?

Apparently you don't know what a ported 13B with a RB intake, Holley carb, full exhaust, and Ford dif can do?

I'm not saying that a 13B NA is FAST, way faster than a V8, or that it can beat all V8, but you may be surprised.

Now answer me, what does your Camino V8 has to do with all this? I hope you are in the 10's or less, because you are talking to much CACA without any backup!!

GO AWAY, TROLL!!

 

hahahahahahah

 

You guys are off topic... the guy doesn't want his car to have to hang with an NSX/Vette/etc... or run 11's at the drag strip. He just wants to know if it'll run with the Civics, 240s, Probes, Talons, etc.... 'can it take most 4 bangers???'

Of course he never mentions whether he'll keep the car stock or not.

'"Fast" is relative. If all you aspire to beat are cars than run 14 or slower, than you will be happy with an N/A. Otherwise, no.'

This should have summed up all your questions. N/A RX-7s will run low 16's stock in the quarter. However, as I've heard around the forum, they're fairly easy to get in the low 15s and high 14s. With some work, lower 14s are possible and I would think high 13s would be the max for streetable N/As (unless you call bridgeporting/peripheral porting streetable of course).

Kenny, I don't know what your problem is... on the first page, dre2000 was CLEARLY talking about being able to beat STOCK mustangs (V8 ones) with his MODIFIED low 14's N/A 7.

"There is no way in hell a stock N/A RX7 will pull a stock fox body (assuming both are in proper tune and have the same driver of course)."

I don't think, at least most people, were arguing that (stock).

"a bone stock N/A WILL NOT BEAT a bone stock
87-93 mustang LX or GT 5.0 PERIOD"

"now if you got a lot of mods and dump
a lot of weight they will be no problem
beating a stock 5.0"

I believe that only people who stated that they could beat 5.0 mustangs were people with modified N/As.

"N/A 13b's are slow. They will always be slow."

Streetable N/A 13bs (besides the renny) won't get past (normally) high 13s. If you want to go faster than that, you should have gotten the turbo model. If high 13s is slow to you, then don't get the car. Of course stock TurboIIs must be dogs then if they run low 15s huh.

"How am I ignorant? N/A 13b's are slow - is it that hard to understand?"

You're comparing them to Vettes/FDs/etc... when the author of this thread wants to know if they'll hang with four bangers...

"Do we all agree that the N/A 2nd gen is basically a turd in a straight line then?"

Considering a modified N/A can run circles around a stock TII....

 

And stock T2s are turds.

 

I was gonna say that, but I've been flamed enough today.

 

Consider this your ONLY warning, since you are new here and obviously just trying to start a flame war. One more flame outta you and you're banned.

Brad

 

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And stock T2s are turds.

...as long as you don't have double standards.

 

No flames, Warning #1

Brad

 

Yes, we all know a carb and a solid rear axle will make more power than fuel injection and a IRS.

I'm still not impressed. Big deal, they found the lightest car possible, stripped it down to bare metal and used some unstreetable port.

My car has nothing to do with this. It was brought into it by the guy with the ported N/A who wanted to run for $1,000 but has since backed out.

No. Other people compared them to fast cars, I simply said they where turds. Comprehension, yet again.

Yes, stock TII's are turds, as are stock turbo Regal's and most other turbo cars. Unlike an N/A, all you have to do is add exhaust a K&N and crank up the boost to make more power.

 

NO FLAMES, Warning #1

Brad

 

actually... if you look back to the first page, you were the first person to talk about your El Camino and sent out a challenge. For someone who seems to constantly rank on other people for their comprehension, yours doesn't seem perfect either.

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No. Other people compared them to fast cars, I simply said they where turds. Comprehension, yet again.

Oh, thats right. You consider the base 5.0 Mustangs to be fast cars. They had very right to do so because their modified cars can run with them and sometimes beat them.

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Yes, stock TII's are turds, as are stock turbo Regal's and most other turbo cars. Unlike an N/A, all you have to do is add exhaust a K&N and crank up the boost to make more power.

Thats nice... the fact that N/As will max out at high 13s makes them 'turds'?

 

Was only a friendly challenge. He can hang with the "big boys" he should have no problem with my turd. - Note the rolleyes.

No one is perfect; didn't they teach you that in grade school?

Again, comprehension. Note the benchmark statement.

Yes, high 13 = turd. Especially if it is a modified car going high 13's.