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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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N/A Drifting???

Just wondering if any na fcc drivers drift there car. And if so what mods do to step up the power abit cause the car feels very week to do it stock.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Ive went to a few drifting events and i found that the power was OK (enough to do the job). I would suggest getting an LSD and coilovers/upgrade springs and struts that will make it much easier, and if you still find that thats not enough start to to small upgrades such as exhaust, intake, upgrade fuel system (ie. injectors, larger fuel pump, some sort of piggyback and a wideband.)
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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First off, there is no need for larger injectors unless you have a major port job.
I would think an NA could do ok at drifting, but I've never done it myself. The main things you should concentrate on are making sure the car is running right, then getting a good suspention. You can upgrade the exhaust as well, and maybe do a CAI.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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sounds like sumthing that could be fun and not expenisve if i dont go parts crazy.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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You don't really need anything to drift. It's fine as it is - and as you get better, maybe add stiffer shocks/springs/coilovers and a diff.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Yeah, assuming the car is running well (very important) you can do it as-is. If you get serious about it getting a better suspention will help you out. It will also make the car more fun everywhere, not just when drifting.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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a new suspension does wonders just for everyday driving even. just being able to take turns at higher speeds makes it worth it.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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well i want it to stay as cheap as possible i will be geting the roll bar cause the car is a vert and i hope it stiffens things up and for around 300 its not that bad of a deal.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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You could weld your open diff. Your car will handle like ****, but that back end will swing right out. Probably when you're driving normally too.

You also realize that drifting really f**ks up your car right? You're going to be burning through tires and putting a lot of strain on your drivetrain. Not to say that drifting is a bad thing, but if you don't have the cash to replace stuff that breaks, you're going to be riding the bus quite a bit.

And no, there's no easy or cheap way to add power to a NA motor. Though you might look into emissions removal and removing weight from the car.

There are also some cheap hack mods where you drill holes in your airbox to suck in more hot air from the engine. (Which decreases your power.)

To get more power NA, you're looking at thousands of dollars in intakes, exhausts, rebuilds, porting, for a gain of... ~40 hp.

Enjoy your car for what it is, otherwise you have to pay to play.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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I think I just lost a few brain cells from reading this... and when I got sad b/c I havent checked into the forum in a minute...
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Hear is what you need to know and I hate to sound mean but do some research too. NA drifting is very possible and easy to do. i'm trying to make my car into a competitive NA drifter. If you are serious like I am then take everything you possibly can out of your car to lighten iit up. Then get LSD, coilvers, and some light wheels 17's would be best. I like drifting on 17's. The power is ok you jus have to floor it and take the turn right. Turbo is easier and better cause you have the power but I wanna show that I can keep up with NA. Well we'll see what happens.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Tune your car with an SAFC or a megasquirt, get more power that way. Weight reduction, better suspension, CAI, headers, hi-flow cat, catback.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Just because you like drifting on 17s dosnt mean its right for everyone. Its accually harder to go sideways with a larger tire.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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The reason why i wanted to know is because i wouldnt be doin it every weekend i would do it at the DD meets to learn there and be able to apply the skills to my 93. Plus if i really wanted i could use my 3rd gen to dirft if i wanted to go all out from the get go, but i do things right i guess and work up in steps. And having alot of power makes it too easy imho and alot of bad things could go wrong when starting out.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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I drift my Tour Bus... does that count?
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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hole in afm's not that cheap hacked of a mod, just slapping on a cone'd give you the same results, without a proper way of managing engine heat, there's not much you can expect from it. But yea, if you want to get significant power gains you probably shouldn't stay n/a, there's no point as pricing's notably more expensive than going turbo, and reliability also drops when you're trying to pull that much out of the n/a. But true dual, intake, and suspension should work, try weight reduction as well, though if you don't have an lsd might wanna look into one
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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i did just fine in my s5 na all i had was a racing beat header with full 2.5 all the back to an n1 muffler, and jic coilovers. it lacked a little bit on power but you can do it, and that was with an open diff, you dont need an lsd to drift it just helps
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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LSD and coilovers. Don't need much power for drifting, just good handling.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fcdrifter13
Just because you like drifting on 17s dosnt mean its right for everyone. Its accually harder to go sideways with a larger tire.
haha I know but once you get the hang of it, it makes a huge difference. The car can actually accel through a corner better. for the smaller tires to cover more ground they need to spin more and you loose speed. But I base it on my style not other peoples. I jus gave my input for drifting. 15's are jus too small for me now. And I dont run that wide a tire only like 225 and it doesnt feel much different to me. I still drift the same.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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I run a 15" Watanbe on my S13, just like I did on my 7 back in the day. Both are NA and could not push the larger wheels as well as a turbo car could. If I ever start back into drifting it will be in another turbo car so I can accually compete.
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