How Do You Disabled An Factory Alarm System?
I What To Turn The **** Off .

 

I don't see why you'd want to disable it unless you have an aftermarket alarm, then it'd probably go haywire. I didn't even know mine worked until I was in a Kroger parking lot with the top down and reached inside without thinking and pulled the handle. I looked like a complete bafoon freaking out.

Also, to contribute to the original post, if it appears that an alarm had been previously installed, check to see if it's removal left any wires exposed or just created chaos under the dash. Sometime people who have the installed take them out themselves for whatever reason. Just something to check for.

 

Just a test for you, and see what happens. My 1990 vert, n/a, alarm system wouldn't arm. I noticed that sometimes, the key from ignition would come out before the ignition lock would engage. You know, push key in and rotate counter clockwise to off and remove key and you would hear lock engage. Now, roll down your window, before turning off engine, about half way, turn off engine, and make sure ignition lock is engaged when removing key.

Now, push door lock from drivers side down, after opening door , of course, and shut the door, WITHOUT, lifting the outside handle. Now walk away slowly and listen for beep. Regardless of hearing or not, about 5 minutes later, go back to the car, and unlock the door
through the window, lifting on interior door lock. Open door. What happened? If alarm goes off, insert key and it will disengage the system. Hope that works for you, it worked for me.

My alarm won't engage if I lift the door handle up when closing. Good Luck

PEACE THE DOG

 

wow this post is back from the dead. Ill give it a try but like this post i have long considered my alarm system to be sleeping with the fishes. Also one thing i dont understand. If i dont hold the handle when i close the door the car wont be locked. The lock wilol just unlocked itself thinking that i forgot my keys in the car or the wind blew it shut by accident. So how am i then supposed to come back 5mins later and unlock a door that is already unlocked.

 

Sorry for taking so long to reply, but answering your question, maybe my car is just special, because I have never had to hold the handle while locking. As far as locking the keys in the ignition, that was my whole point as to the alarm. If the ignition lock is not engaged while removing your key, then the car won't lock, correct? Let me know. Now you have my
curiosity going.

PEACE THE DOG

 

All Japanese cars did that until the mid 90's. It is so you don't lock your keys in the car like some lame American manufacture car.

Just hold the outside handle up when lock from the inside and then closing the door or lock the door with the key.

Its not rocket science

 

are you talking not having to hold the hndle will looking the car from the outside with the key or car you talking about not haveing to hold the handle up will closing the door and already having the car looked from the inside.

 

I'm stating on my 1990 FC3C, n/a, I use the power lock on the driver's side, push it down to lock, and close the door WITHOUT holding the outside handle at all. Shut door, now, my vehicle is locked, I lift up the handle now, to double check it is locked, and then shortly thereafter, the alarm beeps, signaling it is engaged. I understand what Ice is stating, I'm just saying that I DON'T have to hold the outside handle up, or use the key, for my door to be locked.

Just stating how my car works. Broken, maybe, but doubt it. That is what works for me. Try it. If it doesn't work, at least I gave my personal input.

PEACE THE DOG

 

yep, broken latch

 

gave it a try today between classes. no luck my door jsut unlocks if i close like. you. Yours maybe be broken but i wouldn't mind if my alarm works. Thanx for the input. Im still a little lost on what you were saying about the ignition lock. Maybe icemark can comment on weather the ignition lock has anything to do with activating the alarm.

 

The ignition lock has nothing to do with the factory security system, it wants to see the ignition on, then off, and the key removed, to be able to arm

 

Ice, could you explain your explanation further. It wants to see ignition on, then off, then key removed, correct? What do you think I just was referring to? Why are you saying that my latch is broken?

PEACE THE DOG

 

hes says you door latch is broken becouse when you shut a locked door pass. or driver without the handle up there is a latch that unlocks the door saving your but from being locked out of the car.

 

First of all driftin, I am trying to help you, and I don't lock my keys in the car. Second, if you can really understand what the hell I am stating, I DON'T HAVE TO USE MY KEY, OR HOLD MY HANDLE UP TO LOCK MY DOOR, OR TO ENGAGE MY ALARM. GET IT? If my latch was broken, Einstein, I wouldn't be able to lock my door, right? Read what I posted, and if you don't like what I have to offer in HELP, dont reply! I'm trying to help, and also learn!

PEACE THE DOG

 

You are out of line again dog. Bad dog, let me go find a newspaper! Mellow out dog... need to see the vet about some doggy valium for you. He never said you lock you keys in the car... he said to prevent you from doing so.

Your door lock latch is broken because you do not have to hold the exterior door handle to lock the door when locking it from the inside.

See Mazda, (much like every other Japanese manufacture in the 60's, 70's & 80's and up until the mid-90's), made it so that the only way you could lock the door from the inside and then close the door, was to hold up the exterior handle while closing the door.

This is unlike most US manufactures (and Japanese cars built in the USA) where you can lock the door from the inside, and then just close the door. If you did that on a Japanese built car (from the above mentioned times) the door would unlock.

Since you claim your door does not unlock, if you lock it using the latch switch inside the car and then just close the door, your door lock is broken. Probably just needs the latch replaced, but I have not ripped one apart to see what activates the unlock on door close (unless the door handle is held).

See the FC (again like the Japanese manufactured cars of the above mentioned time) was designed so that it would be considerably less likely that you could accidentally lock the keys in the car, by making you either lock the door with the key or lock it with the latch switch inside and hold the handle up when locking.

Coincidentaly the factory alarm system arms the same way... since there still seems to be some confusion, I'll go through it for you.

Again (for about the 100th time) to arm the factory security system, the ignition key must first have been on, then turned off. The key must be removed from the ignition (there is a key sense wire in the ignition cylinder).

Then you need to lock the door with the latch switch inside the car (the latch switch is the lever you push down to lock the door inside). Then you need to close the door without the latch switch moving from the unlock position. This is accomplished by closing the door with the external handle held up while closing. Of course on a properlly working door lock latch system, if you just closed the door (like you claim you can on your car) the door would unlock, moving the latch switch to the unlock position- disarming the alarm before it had a chance to set up.

Hope this makes it more clear.

 

Ice, my good man, I am not going to get into an argument with an individual who is clearly
more informative on the internal works of the rotary "masterpiece". I have been now, and for many weeks, been re-doing my power window cables, and with my door panels off, both sides, looked closely at what makes all of the corresponding mechanisms work.

I can state, from my own personal viewpoint, and your knowledge, state for a fact, that my door locks work as I previously stated. As far as Japanese, or American, or maybe the previous owner has "CHANGED", this is how my car works. I can use the key, and get same result. Period. I am not challenging the way the internal mechanisms work in the 90
vert, I am stating how my vehicle works.

Ice, your knowledge is invaluable to this site, but please every once in a while, give someone a break, broken or not, I was trying to give a proven perspective on what is currently working. The man wants some kind of security knowing that his alarm is armed, and protecting his "masterpiece", and I was just hoping maybe I could lend a hand.

If I were to take medication as you described, I would really be an *******. I'm new, and just trying to help. If that causes you, or anyone else a problem, let me know, and I will just read and not reply.

PEACE THE DOG

 

Well the only reason for the slap around was your jumping all over driftin8ez for his reply. He understood how the system worked for the unlocking if closing without holding the handle. I don't know why your's does not work that way, but it sounds like you didn't know that it was supposed to work that way and your's does not. That and the fact that you have been working on your doors, suggests that perhaps there is a disconnected rod or some part in your door hardware.

 

besides the beep and the flash of the security system... did you ever actaully test the alarm? do the steps to apply it then come back 5 minutes later... open the hatch and crawl through the car, unlock and open the driver side door from the inside... if your alarm is working it will definitly go off then (thats how I set mine off a few times back when my doors were broke)

 

well going in through the hatch wont work becouse the s5 has alarm disarm on the trunk key cylinder. He is the latest on my alarm. One day i got my alarm completly working. lights beeps, and i could set it off by staying in the car until the alarm armed. if i popped the hood or popped the trunk or open any door from the inside it would go off. then about 20 mins, later it stopped working again. the closest i ever got to it working again was when i turn off the car it would give me this beep beep beep and keep doing it. no flashes of the light. the alarm wouldnt arm. now when i lock the door no beeps or flashes and no alarm. I figured there was a loose connecton somewhere or my cpu needs a rebuild. Thanx for all the help and input.

 

My appologies to all, if I have offended anyone in any way. It is not now, or ever, my intention to do so. I just like to try and explain what might shed some insight as to a solution to someone's problem. Sephero, I learned that my alarm worked properly, by accident one day, when I had the top down, locked the door from inside, to run into store.
When I returned, forgot I had locked it, and reached in and unlocked from the inside and alarm went off. That is how I found out.

Yes folks, I am new. New not only to this site, but to the FC also. I am not one to sit back and not help, or try to, if I feel I have something that might benefit others. I thought that was the whole reason for all of us being here. driftin8ez, if I helped good. If not, still good.
Listen to the veterans here, and they will help to find the solution, like they have done for myself numerous times.

PEACE THE DOG

 

Mombodogs no offense taken. thanx for the help and im glad to see that someout there is willing to ressurect a thread that has an unsolved problem within. your cool in my book. Sepher0 your cool too. And Ice what can i say your the man.