ok...i have a 89 gxl. i have headers, and a racing beat exaust, a bonez intake and a street port. i ran today with a few cars. 1) 91 acura integra....he says he runs a high 14 at the track he has about 180hp...and he smokes me. 2) i almost lost to a 91 civic hatch...only about 130hp. he was right on my bumper but i was only ahead cause i launched better.

and to top it off, i was door to door with an oldsmobile intrigue!?!?!?!

what is wrong??? should my car be running with these? i would think that i should be walking all over civics...i should have 160hp stock right? and people have told me about 200hp with what i have done? did i miss something... HELP!!!

 

Get a 1/4 mile run on a timed track and post your split times. Maybe see if you can hook up with some one from the forum that lives near you to take a look at how you drive.

No shame lossing to a 14 sec car, even if it is a honda

 

Ummm...There is some shame in loosing to a honda....

 

well atleast u don't drive the slowest rex ever made!!!


90 n/a auto vert
(don't laugh too loud )

 

is your car an auto?

 

i have an 86 n/a, and i have a boy with a 98 ex sohc v-tech. we run neck and neck from light to light, but on the interstate i pull hard in 4th. hope that makes u feel a little better.

 

Or the "MTV real life" honda - revs to 9000rpms and "grinds" it into gear.

That's cheating if you don't use the clutch !!!!

 

Are your 6-ports and VDI working?

If you have exhaust and streetport... then you should be running low 15's/high 14's right with that acura. Something is fucked here.

Stock is 16.0 (assuming you have everything running corectly). full exhaust will be like mid 15's. And a streetport is hella power

 

Not all Hondas are slow, especially the integra. Those civic hatches are pretty light, and with some mods they can be pretty fast. Plus mods for Hondas are everywhere since everyone and their brother has one.I do think that with your mods you shouldve taken it though. Maybe get a compression test , time for a tune-up?

*edit* By the way you only have 1 header

 

I see you have been misguided by the 14sec FC's people, do we have any here .

Don't assume you have a 14 sec car untill you have a time slip. Yes your car HAD 160hp AT the FLYWHEEL when NEW. You must make sure that your 6ports and VDI are working properly, if not that is it.

You should be able to "keep up" with a GSR with I/H/E, more than that and you are toast. Remember they don't have a restrictive AFM, their driveline (?) loss is about 10% lower than ours, and they weight anywhere from 200-400 LBS less than our FC's.

You should be beating the hell out of all Honda Civics (except for the 99-01 SI), and CRX, if any of these have a "Frankeinstein" engine you are toast.

 

Not with a normal street port, specially on a 6 port block.

 

Meh... but you should NEVER lose to a CiBIc unless he's got a engine transplant or (or so I've HEARD) a new Si.

I've beaten a GS-R with I/H/E before.... but only by like 1/2-3/4 of a carlenght (his front bumber was at my passenger door).

 

EXACTLY, and once you race the Civic coupe SI, the outcome will be very similar

 

Wait, so you're telling me the Civic Si is just as fast as a Integra GS-R Vtec WITH intake, exhaust, and headers?

So the econobox of honda is faster than it's "sports coupe?" (well, the "sports coupe" they had before the RSX-S of course)

 

well im getting a tune up done today...putting in some 10mm wires and some new ngk plaitnum plugs...he is also checking the tps and the timing for me. hope its better...ill let you all know.

also, my car has a recently rebuilt motor...it has about 10k on it. it is the 6 port 13b with street port.

i can really keep up with a gsr if i get **** running right?

 

You should beat a GS-R if you are running right

Platinum plugs won't do ****, maybe just last longer. The 10mm wires better be "ultra" brand (Racing Beat) or magnecor or MSD.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, get your 6-ports and VDI running perfectly.

 

thats pretty bad...ahah, i'd be angry if my saab (pure stock 4cylider turbo with 245000miles) lost to any honda... i would sell it.

 

They are about the same with equal mods, or stock!

 

I was wondering - do you still have your cats? I replaced my cats with a rb presilencer back in the day, and it totally made a different (IMO). As a matter of fact my 87 n/a with just intake, header, exhaust + presilencer beat (small margin) a crx with a b16 (supposedly j-spec) only to name one. Everyone we raced was like "damn that car is fast, is it turbo?", and we said no - their jaws dropped.

 

VERY-VERY arguable, same mods vs same mods, the FC gets TOASTED!!

 

Easily a matter of drivers, a CRX with a Dohc 1.6 WILL do 14.9 at least, haven't seen a FC with a the stock AFM doing that.........

 

i dont have the cats...i 2 in pipes from the engine back to presliencer, then y pipe to muffs....by the way...what is the AFM?


chicks dig the verts man...who cares if it is slow....



but auto?!?!?!........sorry....no more from me about automatics. im the one with the slow standard one

 

Unless you have 200+lbs of audio equipment, a GSR does not weigh that much less than an FC (unless your talking about the 2g GSR's which I never see).

When my FC was running right with an intake, straight pipe, and dynomax mufflers, I beat every GSR with similar mods and would really start to pull past a car-length at the end of 3rd gear. Note that I said "running right". Most 12+ year old cars aren't exactly running right.

 

My 91 NA with a 1/4 of gas (-/+) hit the scale at heffty 2880 lbs without driver. The latest GSR weight 2667 lbs, and you mention the the earlier ones where lighter. 400LBS is probably and over statement, but based on these numbers there is a 213LBS difference, 10% higers drivetrain loss, and 10HP less from the factory, they sure have the upperhand when it comes to racing..............

 

I really like the looks of the newer integras. The only thing that prevents me from getting one is the FWD. I know they can still handle very well even with the FWD, but its just not as fun.