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Old 12-15-05, 10:48 AM
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cool project man. I'm gonna use this thread when I start my build in January. Lookin' good.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Well that's about the most depressing thing I have read here in 6 years...

A slight suggestion...Instead of giving up, can you store the car for a while? Store it, then walk away and get on with your life for a few weeks/months/years. Come back and look at it again with a fresh perspective. Failed oil seals are not too bad. Sure, you need to pull the engine apart but that just requires a gasket set and seal to replace the failed one. I know that when you've worked so hard on something for along period of time, a failure like this can put you in a dark place. Sometimes all it takes is to step back for a while, then come back with renewed enthusiasm..
Yah it's depressing, and I know the fix would not be costly, would not be hard, would not even be time consuming really. But this "failure" kind of got me thinking about a lot of stuff, and my interests have just changed over these last 5 months while I've been doing all this and planning everything.

This REALLY isn't an easy decision I'm having to make here. I've been racking my brain ever since this happened. I've talked to a lot of people and still am not sure. It's funny, though, the local rx7 people have been supportive. I've been offered help by Dan atkins, garage space from others, and free parts to fix it. So again it would not be hard or costly at all, it's just I'm not sure what I want.

The first time it fired up was really cool, but deep inside I was regretting what I had done. If I kept the car, I think I'd definitely want to redo the engine and some of the porting. But again that'd be more money I don't want to spend, and more time I don't have.

So yah, still undecided. One decision is to get rid of this car that has been stripped and modded to the extreme, and get a stock 2nd gen and leave it mild. I already know what I'd get too. Either an 87 sport, or an 87 TII.
Old 12-15-05, 04:10 PM
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I say keep with the NA. Not because I want you to be slower but because you were one of the reasons so many were willing to try stuff new. There is nothing wrong with a TII, but you showed people how an NA can be fun and relatively quick.

I hope you get a 87 sport and modify it to 200HP or so (go go Kahren ports). Then you'll still be a person who thinks differently and can get the job done with style. Maybe take alot of consideration from a build I'm doing? Just simple and fun.

Good luck Andy, I know you'll make the best decision and either way you kick ***. I hope you'll end up happy in the end.

PS) Next car might be quiet? :O
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Here's the #1 reason you probably won't get rid of it:

You won't see 1/4 of what you spent.

That little gem right there is what makes RX7's stick around
Old 12-15-05, 04:31 PM
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91 turbo 2 swapped vert!, i know ill get flamed for this, but its what im doing eventually, lol
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oh no!

damn, i just came from writing, and possibly failing, the worst final exam ever! then i read this and made my day even sadder.

it's really too bad man. i guess these things happen, but i really didn't expect it since you did such a great and thorough job. it's kind of disheartening in a way because it puts even more fear into me for my engine build...

well i think what really counts here is that you do what you feel is necessary and best for you. the car was obviously a creative outlet of sorts for you and you enjoyed doing it. to carry on and not feel 100% about it anymore would be negating the reason you did it in the first place.
so as much as i would love to see this succeed eventually, i can totally understand that may not be route you will take.

i guess we can always look back to the first 22 pages of this thread for inspiration

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That or use properly sized o-rings?
Old 12-15-05, 07:47 PM
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Sorry to hear that. I too as of late have set aside any type of car projects and am dedicating my time and $ to my education, future and my gf. I decided to save small bills, and coins to use as a 'fun' expence for modifications/projects on my NA rx7 (which is mostly stock), and will pay a shop such as corksport to do any work for me. I feel for you and your car. Make the right decision for your future, you will thank yourself for it later (mabey sooner). -good luck!-
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Ditch the woman; fix the car, it's cheaper in the long run!
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
Ditch the woman; fix the car, it's cheaper in the long run!
Now your talkin' crazy.

Your going to have to give up - he's already parting it out in the for sale section
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sorry to hear that man I hope you keep the car. But how do you tear a oil seal? I'm not trying to say your stupid or anything ,but did you put vasoline on them? did you use a sharp object to make sure they were twisted ,and did you make sure they went in properly not twisted. Anyways I'm really sorry to hear about the oil problem. good luck to you and keep us posted as you have already
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Ditch the woman; fix the car, it's cheaper in the long run!
The woman will not be ditched, she is 4 lyfe
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Originally Posted by Turbo II-FB
sorry to hear that man I hope you keep the car. But how do you tear a oil seal? I'm not trying to say your stupid or anything ,but did you put vasoline on them? did you use a sharp object to make sure they were twisted ,and did you make sure they went in properly not twisted. Anyways I'm really sorry to hear about the oil problem. good luck to you and keep us posted as you have already
Of course I used vaseline. And they were not binding before they were pressed in.

That being said, the oil seal is a "theory" really. It could actually be that the spring came loose and spun somehow, wont know until I open it up.
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Wow, this was the most amazing thread I have ever read. I too have a GXL and I have tried to get myself to try and rebuild it. The engine is out and sits and awaits me in the garage. I could just not push myself over that first step, to remove that first bolt and buy the rebuild kit. You had inspired me to try and do it, you had showed me the way. You seem to be a practicle, real, person that I could see myself turning into. You cant stop now. I need to see the final step, that final appreciation for what you have accomplished. You have worked this hard and its so sad to see you give up your dream. No matter what I say I know that you will make the best choice for you and your life.
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The woman will not be ditched, she is 4 lyfe
You been spending too much time in Seattle, they got your head all screwed up!
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You been spending too much time in Seattle, they got your head all screwed up!
the damn emo got to him didnt they?
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the damn emo got to him didnt they?
Must be. It's gone downhill ever since I started working in that clothing store. Maybe that's why?
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Originally Posted by dDuB

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So yah, still undecided. One decision is to get rid of this car that has been stripped and modded to the extreme, and get a stock 2nd gen and leave it mild. I already know what I'd get too. Either an 87 sport, or an 87 TII.
Ah, I see. I know what you're thinking as I went through the same thing a few years ago with electronics...I chose to ditch electronics as a hobby because it was just unfun at that point, but I could never imagine ditching RX-7s.

What about getting a 1st gen? Different car, just as fun.
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The problem with first gens is they're so god awful fugly. If he could've afforded to store it for a while, I'm sure in a year or three once he's settled and all the major stuff that pops up around this time in life is out of the way interest might have picked up again, but then again who wants to store an RX7 for that long when you could probably pick up another in a few years for 1/20th the cost? Oh well, at least I contributed to keeping part of it alive, just on my car. :-D
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Now that's a matter of opinion. The 1st gens are classic in shape, especially the SAs with their thinner side trim, split rear tail lights and external license plate lights. I don't like the interior in the '81+ models as much as the earlier models, but as a sports car they're about as pure as you can get without going to plastic side curtain windows and open wheels.

Also dead reliable and pretty cheap in daily driver condition. I've just acquired a GSL-SE which will be my next project.

And FD...now that's an ugly RX-7. Yeesh.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Ah, I see. I know what you're thinking as I went through the same thing a few years ago with electronics...I chose to ditch electronics as a hobby because it was just unfun at that point, but I could never imagine ditching RX-7s.

What about getting a 1st gen? Different car, just as fun.
I plan on getting another rx7, don't worry you guys can't get rid of me that easily

I'll still be here on the board until I get the next one, so I'm not leaving or anything.
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i dont think i could see andrew in an FD, but you never know......
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Well that's about the most depressing thing I have read here in 6 years...

A slight suggestion...Instead of giving up, can you store the car for a while? Store it, then walk away and get on with your life for a few weeks/months/years. Come back and look at it again with a fresh perspective. Failed oil seals are not too bad. Sure, you need to pull the engine apart but that just requires a gasket set and seal to replace the failed one. I know that when you've worked so hard on something for along period of time, a failure like this can put you in a dark place. Sometimes all it takes is to step back for a while, then come back with renewed enthusiasm..
i must echo this sentiment ... this is depressing to read. however, i guess if that's where you are in life, then i can respect it. something that i think is worth noting, if your car fails, it's always a relatively easy fix. if your girlfriend fails, it may not be that easy - learned that the hard way a few times. however ... take the path you that you feel will make you happiest.

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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
Ditch the woman; fix the car, it's cheaper in the long run!
Wow, I leave this club for one month and Ddub quits the game, just a shame. You were one of the few good ones here. I don't blame you, the rotary world is rough sometimes. Rotaries blow, that's just the way it goes. I just about quit too last time one of my side seals went, until someone had me tune his haltech TII, man that thing pulled hard.
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i personally wouldn't have left it, if anything i would have fixed it and then sold it even if my ideals have changed, only because i hate the idea of failing.


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