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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:05 AM
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Are my bearings ok?

Hello there. I am in the process of rebuilding my engine, and I got the FULL rebuild kit from Atkins Rotary, that has everything except the oil control ring springs. Anyways, now that I have all my parts completely cleaned, I was wondering if I could get some advice on my bearings. I took pics of my old ones, and I was hoping someone out there might be able to tell me if they look like they need to be replaced? I am going to check the clearances tomorrow morning, but:

Here's the bearing on the small stationary gear:
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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And here's the bearing on my large stationary gear:
(ok, I realize I should call them big and small, I forget which one is the front and rear, sorry!!!)
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:14 AM
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And here's one of my rotors.....
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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And my other rotor.....
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:45 AM
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Theyre beginning to get some wear on them, but I say use them...we just had a similar thread/argument about a month ago from rpeck's rebuild. With a couple of no-name exceptions, the resounding answer was to reuse original bearings unless theyre pretty worn out. These are just beginnig to show wear. Id say they had 125-175k on them?
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:53 AM
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Re: Are my bearings ok?

This one needs replacing also.

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Hello there. I am in the process of rebuilding my engine, and I got the FULL rebuild kit from Atkins Rotary, that has everything except the oil control ring springs. Anyways, now that I have all my parts completely cleaned, I was wondering if I could get some advice on my bearings. I took pics of my old ones, and I was hoping someone out there might be able to tell me if they look like they need to be replaced? I am going to check the clearances tomorrow morning, but:

Here's the bearing on the small stationary gear:
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:55 AM
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This one apppears to be ok but if there is any reddish bronze color showing then it needs to go also.



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And my other rotor.....
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 02:00 AM
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OK sorry to make a mess of the thread.

1st pic posted: needs to be replaced
2nd pic posted: needs to be replaced
3rd pic posted: needs replacing
4th pic posted: Looks ok but if there is reddish bronze showing through then it has to go.

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 02:02 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 02:48 AM
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heheh 167K miles, good guess! The thing is, the kti I ordered had new bearings in it, and I didnt know the useage these things can tolerate... so I do have all the new bearings, and it'd cost me $80 to have them put in.... but I worry that the I might end up under the MINIMUM clearance between the eshaft.....then I'd really be stuffed....
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 02:52 AM
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read through those other threads and make your own decision. Both points have been argued well, but I believe you know how most of the experienced people lean.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 03:05 PM
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There might be an underlying "problem" that might not be obvious to most people.&nbsp These bearings are designed to last 300,000+ on an engine that has been properly used and maintained.&nbsp The "shot" bearings (i.e. first three) show obvious signs of the underlying copper material in very localized wear patches - this is a sure sign of overreving or inferior/old oil.&nbsp Whatever the case, it sure looks like an abused engine in my book.&nbsp I would try and "mic" the eccentric shaft journals to see if you can detect an out-of-round journal - this means the eccentric shaft is junk.

"Ideal" wear of the bearings would be very even wear all around.&nbsp The "jigsaw joint" in the bearing would be the FIRST area where you should see the underlying copper start to show - in fact, slight copper showing at this joint is normal, and the bearing is still okay to be reused.&nbsp There are pics which show this joint to be "perfect", which also makes me suspicious that the engine was abused.



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