Modified top mount
06-11-10, 12:38 PM
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Yeah, real cool work he did on his own, but I wouldnt pay $500 for an end tank and better tubing. Meth injection can be run on any tubing. I would look into bigger intercoolers if I'm already $500 into it
06-11-10, 01:00 PM
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That mod corrects the single biggest problem with the stock intercooler which is the outlet angle to the throttlebody. The location of the intercooler is pretty much irrelevant as long as it meets 2 requirements. One is that the intercooler is sized properly and two is that it receives enough cool air. It could be in a fender if these 2 requirements were met and work just fine. Of course there are pros and cons to every location and unless you are pushing 400 hp, I don't see why a top located intercooler isn't a good choice. Shorter piping and less lag. Yes it will heat soak faster but only when not moving. Even if you have a larger turbo and the stock intercooler is no longer of adequate capacity, replacing it with a larger top mount and finding a way to increase airflow to it should always be considered a valid option. Front mounts are a bit overrated. As with everything there are times when they are the way to go but for many people they may not be. I like this mod. It is simple and makes sense. I have no doubt it works just fine.
06-11-10, 01:10 PM
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That mod corrects the single biggest problem with the stock intercooler which is the outlet angle to the throttlebody. The location of the intercooler is pretty much irrelevant as long as it meets 2 requirements. One is that the intercooler is sized properly and two is that it receives enough cool air. It could be in a fender if these 2 requirements were met and work just fine. Of course there are pros and cons to every location and unless you are pushing 400 hp, I don't see why a top located intercooler isn't a good choice. Shorter piping and less lag. Yes it will heat soak faster but only when not moving. Even if you have a larger turbo and the stock intercooler is no longer of adequate capacity, replacing it with a larger top mount and finding a way to increase airflow to it should always be considered a valid option. Front mounts are a bit overrated. As with everything there are times when they are the way to go but for many people they may not be. I like this mod. It is simple and makes sense. I have no doubt it works just fine.
the air temps vary a little more but not by much. it seems like there is plenty of airflow for the top mount at speed
06-11-10, 01:55 PM
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Hmm... Maybe if the BUYER covered all costs of sending a core and covered the shipping (Duh.) and then whatever the production cost would be.
Then it could be produced , almost on an 'a la carte' basis.
06-11-10, 02:52 PM
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One thing I've learned after being on this forum for nearly a decade is that there is NO money to be made here. At the end of the day if you were to make a product that everyone wanted and then were to offer it for free plus shipping, people would complain that shipping isn't also free. For what it would cost in time alone vs what this would probably have to be priced at to justify even doing it would make most people cry that it is just cheaper to buy an ebay intercooler and make one yourself. I hate to sound blunt or negative but it's true.
06-11-10, 04:39 PM
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While this is the case, alot of people would rather buy an el-cheapo, Spearco-based, eBay knockoff, There are some other people that have the abilities to do what Sen's doing, and others that would rather pay than any other option.
I think, in the end, it's a preference thing.
I think, in the end, it's a preference thing.
06-11-10, 11:31 PM
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I pretty much agree with everything that has been said here. But i would not charge anything near 500 for something like this. I think 250 area is reasonable... But still, most people would still say they want it until in comes time to pay up.
But the REAL accomplishment here is, 2 pages on Rx7club... and not one hater!!! whats up!!
lol...
But the REAL accomplishment here is, 2 pages on Rx7club... and not one hater!!! whats up!!
lol...
06-12-10, 12:21 AM
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If you can figure out a way to make one for LHD, and can prove that there are legitimate gains over stock, I'd do 250 on one whenever my car is actually running again.
06-12-10, 01:05 AM
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I pretty much agree with everything that has been said here. But i would not charge anything near 500 for something like this. I think 250 area is reasonable... But still, most people would still say they want it until in comes time to pay up.
But the REAL accomplishment here is, 2 pages on Rx7club... and not one hater!!! whats up!!
lol...
But the REAL accomplishment here is, 2 pages on Rx7club... and not one hater!!! whats up!!
lol...
06-13-10, 12:24 PM
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Sounds like a plan...
If a unit w/ a larger/more efficient core could be produced, I'd be interested too.
Aux injection is cool and all, but its another fluid level to worry about, another system to check and more failure points. If a topmount could be designed/re-designed to support roughly 275-300hp w/o injection I'd be all in. I don't want to have to get another IC when I upgrade turbos. But if I needed to add injection at that point that'd be fine
If a unit w/ a larger/more efficient core could be produced, I'd be interested too.
Aux injection is cool and all, but its another fluid level to worry about, another system to check and more failure points. If a topmount could be designed/re-designed to support roughly 275-300hp w/o injection I'd be all in. I don't want to have to get another IC when I upgrade turbos. But if I needed to add injection at that point that'd be fine
06-13-10, 05:03 PM
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The idea is if you direct the airflow into and out of the intercooler core, it helps increase the airflow and heat transfer.
Granted I could be totally off base, but in my limited understanding of fluid dynamics, this is how I understand it to work.
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10-20-10, 11:41 AM
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Thread from the dead....
I'm extremely interested in this, if the OP would start a thread in the group buy section and would be willing to fabricate some for interested parties count me in!
That is if he is willing to do this still..... if not, sell me yours, lol.
I'm extremely interested in this, if the OP would start a thread in the group buy section and would be willing to fabricate some for interested parties count me in!
That is if he is willing to do this still..... if not, sell me yours, lol.
10-20-10, 04:06 PM
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I am willing to do this... But there's something that's all to common in the FC community. A lot of people say they want it, but when it's time to pay up, there's no one to be found.
If you, or anyone else is interested, you can just PM me. There's no need for a group buy.
If you, or anyone else is interested, you can just PM me. There's no need for a group buy.
10-20-10, 07:19 PM
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Have you done a comparison to the stock unit yet? I would be very interested in seeing those numbers as well. I would also buy a modded I/C from you if there is a real advantage to it. I have a spare S5 core around here somewhere I could send in. One of the tanks is crushed but if you're gonna replace it anyway (shrug)
10-20-10, 08:56 PM
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I want one, and xmas time is coming, perfect timign to release your product...
It also looks like it would work with the greddy elbow, which I already own. I just dont want to do front mount, trying to keep throttle response and lag as minimal as possible.
It also looks like it would work with the greddy elbow, which I already own. I just dont want to do front mount, trying to keep throttle response and lag as minimal as possible.
12-08-10, 07:51 PM
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The oil filler neck has been modified, there is a cap that bolts on to cover the hole. Remove to fill w/ oil.
Peak numbers don't mean a whole lot. It might produce more low end torque or significantly increase the total area under the HP curve.
Peak numbers don't mean a whole lot. It might produce more low end torque or significantly increase the total area under the HP curve.
12-08-10, 10:28 PM
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Average HP is key. I'll take a 200whp car that makes that power throughout, over a 250whp peaky car. I have beaten cars with much more peak HP. But they only make that power in a very short range. Also, I don't really know the HP increase, or the effect it had on the entire power band. To me, this is a hobby. This car is a part of my hobby. I build these things to occupy my time and satisfy myself. I believe it had a positive effect. I also noticed a difference. But butt dyno's and assumptions mean absolutely nothing here. I just use general knowledge and basic principle to design most things. So far, I have not been let down with any of my work.
For the oil filler neck, like sharingan stated, there is a little cover where the 2nd piece of the filler neck bolts down. I just removed the top half and bolted on a cover. I have done this before to use a FD manifold where the filler neck is also in the way.
For the oil filler neck, like sharingan stated, there is a little cover where the 2nd piece of the filler neck bolts down. I just removed the top half and bolted on a cover. I have done this before to use a FD manifold where the filler neck is also in the way.