maybe next time some earlier warning would be apriciated
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I agree with everything that's been said here except one thing. Why must I hear the same words over and over again about how the forum puts a hole in person X's pocket every month, and it's hard to maintain, and blah blah blah. Well, reality check, there have been so many people OFFERING to host this site FOR FREE! You both have obviously chosen to deny that offer, so quit complaining about costs! If it's too expensive, look into other options than banning group buy posts.
08-10-01, 10:48 AM
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Re: Re: OK guys,
Originally posted by 88GTU
I have to disagree here... a faster connection benefits Jason. Quicker speeds mean more page loads, more time spent on the forum, more users, and more advertising. All of these translate to more income for Jason.
Group buys, in my experiance, are 90% of the time started by the users. Just because Jason advertises here should not mean a ban on mentioning deals by other vendors. At that point we become a captive audience of Jason and are subject to his whims, pricing, etc... His store does not offer everything we need and many of us have actually had bad experiances with it. Those should be allowed to be shared as well.
Has Jason made an attempt to seek outside advertising for the board? By giving all the $$$ control to him you have given him full control over the forum. Its not in his best interest to find other ad revenues as this translates into lost income for him and an audience that would actually be aware of competition.
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I have to disagree here... a faster connection benefits Jason. Quicker speeds mean more page loads, more time spent on the forum, more users, and more advertising. All of these translate to more income for Jason.
Group buys, in my experiance, are 90% of the time started by the users. Just because Jason advertises here should not mean a ban on mentioning deals by other vendors. At that point we become a captive audience of Jason and are subject to his whims, pricing, etc... His store does not offer everything we need and many of us have actually had bad experiances with it. Those should be allowed to be shared as well.
Has Jason made an attempt to seek outside advertising for the board? By giving all the $$$ control to him you have given him full control over the forum. Its not in his best interest to find other ad revenues as this translates into lost income for him and an audience that would actually be aware of competition.
-Matt
Why would anybody possibly want to PAY for advertising if they feel like they can do all they want for free? That's the whole problem here. To support the site, we need to bring in some revenue. The traditional way is through advertising, but to get advertising we have to establish rules on the way it's done. Certainly even a conspiracy theorist as yourself can understand that
The whole plan is for use to get enough advertising revenue to cover all the costs. At which point there will be no more Rx-7 Store banner, and Jason will pretty much disappear behind the scenes. But right now a way for Jason to recoup some of his expenses is through advertising his own business.
Again, I just fail to comprehend why you think you know our reasonings. You don't know ****, pardon me... but honestly, you don't. The site's here, and it will be here to stay. If you think Jason's just going to shell out $900/month and expect nothing in return, you're living in happy land.
08-10-01, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by rx7style
I agree with everything that's been said here except one thing. Why must I hear the same words over and over again about how the forum puts a hole in person X's pocket every month, and it's hard to maintain, and blah blah blah. Well, reality check, there have been so many people OFFERING to host this site FOR FREE! You both have obviously chosen to deny that offer, so quit complaining about costs! If it's too expensive, look into other options than banning group buy posts.
I agree with everything that's been said here except one thing. Why must I hear the same words over and over again about how the forum puts a hole in person X's pocket every month, and it's hard to maintain, and blah blah blah. Well, reality check, there have been so many people OFFERING to host this site FOR FREE! You both have obviously chosen to deny that offer, so quit complaining about costs! If it's too expensive, look into other options than banning group buy posts.
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Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
Here's another example of someone speculating without knowing more than 10% of the total situation. Many have offered to host the site, and every time we've followed up on it. To date, none of those offers have been able to back it up with the kind of bandwidth, hardware, and reliability that we must have. We appreciate the offers, but most people have offered without knowing the true scope of what's involved with hosting this site. This site uses a full T1 by itself! It hogs the resources of an entire server by itself! It's not as simple as 99% of the people believe...
Here's another example of someone speculating without knowing more than 10% of the total situation. Many have offered to host the site, and every time we've followed up on it. To date, none of those offers have been able to back it up with the kind of bandwidth, hardware, and reliability that we must have. We appreciate the offers, but most people have offered without knowing the true scope of what's involved with hosting this site. This site uses a full T1 by itself! It hogs the resources of an entire server by itself! It's not as simple as 99% of the people believe...
Every day that goes by we hear, click banners, support the forum, make donations, don't flaunt competator prices, can't advertise without paying, etc...
It just never ends.
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That's what gossiping women do...
Are you a woman? Because you sure sound like you're menstrating...
I understand why no group buy post on this site.
I also understand (from exp) how much it cost to run a site like this and the fact that donations are not getting it done.
I also think that Jason should be able to propigate his store over others since hey he is part of the reason this forum is so great.
BUT I dont understand why w8 till now and without warning delete group buy posts. Why not put a sticky explaining all this for a few days before it went down.
As far as my post:
The forum does have a problem. They dont allow group buy post. I am not questioning as to why. I know why. Its just that group buys are important to alot of us that need to watch our money and seek out the best deals possible. The better idea is before you starts a group buy post someone ask somebody what kind of deal Jason or whoever can get for us. In my mind it doesnt even have to be the cheapest in order for me to go that route. I dont mind paying alittle more to support my favorite site.
Oh well tired of typing..
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Re: Re: Re: OK guys,
Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
I don't get why people feel the need to agree of disagree.
I can disagree if I like. My problem is taking donations for a board that is dominated by one advertiser. At the point you take money from us we become paying providers like Jason and you. Unless you believe that we should give you our money with no control over how it is spent?
It's our site, it's our situation - a situation which you know nothing about. So why even bother trying to judge us?
Supposedly, I thought this was a community. A community in which we could discuss rotary issues, talk **** (lounge), and if need be, question the authority. Yes, you may have ownership of the site, but without your users you have no forum, only a mess of html. We are providing the content and user base which draws the advertisers. (Jason)
Unless you know the whole situation, why chose to think you have some sort of insight? That's what gossiping women do...
Do you have a problem with women? This is the second time in this thread you have made references to women in a derogatory fashion. Just as many men gossip, drive SUVs badly, and get pissy.
Why would anybody possibly want to PAY for advertising if they feel like they can do all they want for free? That's the whole problem here. To support the site, we need to bring in some revenue. The traditional way is through advertising, but to get advertising we have to establish rules on the way it's done. Certainly even a conspiracy theorist as yourself can understand that
Running an advertising based forum means that you are offering a product to advertisers. This product is created by us. The benefits of advertising and paying to do so is a 1,000 times increase in the publicity available over mere posting. Everytime I load a page I will see the RX-7 Store ad at least once. Vendors should not be allowed to post in this forum. I have no problem with that. However, users should be allowed to post where good deals are and comment on the other vendors out there. A group buy (especially in a group buy forum) is a one time shot at deals for the users. The deals are often short term, organized by your users, have restrictions, and a delayed shipment. They do not pose a threat to Jason or his RX-7 Store but instead offer additional content for the users of the forum, drawing more users and more publicity for the RX-7 Store. If Jason can offer us a better deal than let him do it. As a paying advertiser he has the right to post and can thus counter with his offer.
The whole plan is for use to get enough advertising revenue to cover all the costs. At which point there will be no more Rx-7 Store banner, and Jason will pretty much disappear behind the scenes. But right now a way for Jason to recoup some of his expenses is through advertising his own business.
Of course, and I would expect nothing less. He is advertising, in fact I would go so far as to say that without the forum, Jason would not have a business. Jason is not doing us a favor, the forum and him are engaged in a business deal. I would say that over 90% of his business comes from this forum and its users so of course he will support it. If he is making a dime in profit every month over what he gives to the board then he is making a profit on the advertising. And, once again, I ask if he is actively looking for other advertisers? There is no gain for him to find any...
Again, I just fail to comprehend why you think you know our reasonings. You don't know ****, pardon me... but honestly, you don't. The site's here, and it will be here to stay. If you think Jason's just going to shell out $900/month and expect nothing in return, you're living in happy land.
He is getting an awful lot in return. For $900/month you take care of all of his advertising and provide his revenue for him. If thats not a deal, I don't know what is. You have a very powerful resource with this board and finding advertising should be easy with this large a user base. I object to your slavish mentality towards Jason and the money he gives. He is advertising and paying for that privilage... not donating from the goodness of his heart. Keep ads off the board that are not payed for but do not cut down on group buys organized by users which are a different thing entirely.
I don't get why people feel the need to agree of disagree.
I can disagree if I like. My problem is taking donations for a board that is dominated by one advertiser. At the point you take money from us we become paying providers like Jason and you. Unless you believe that we should give you our money with no control over how it is spent?
It's our site, it's our situation - a situation which you know nothing about. So why even bother trying to judge us?
Supposedly, I thought this was a community. A community in which we could discuss rotary issues, talk **** (lounge), and if need be, question the authority. Yes, you may have ownership of the site, but without your users you have no forum, only a mess of html. We are providing the content and user base which draws the advertisers. (Jason)
Unless you know the whole situation, why chose to think you have some sort of insight? That's what gossiping women do...
Do you have a problem with women? This is the second time in this thread you have made references to women in a derogatory fashion. Just as many men gossip, drive SUVs badly, and get pissy.
Why would anybody possibly want to PAY for advertising if they feel like they can do all they want for free? That's the whole problem here. To support the site, we need to bring in some revenue. The traditional way is through advertising, but to get advertising we have to establish rules on the way it's done. Certainly even a conspiracy theorist as yourself can understand that
Running an advertising based forum means that you are offering a product to advertisers. This product is created by us. The benefits of advertising and paying to do so is a 1,000 times increase in the publicity available over mere posting. Everytime I load a page I will see the RX-7 Store ad at least once. Vendors should not be allowed to post in this forum. I have no problem with that. However, users should be allowed to post where good deals are and comment on the other vendors out there. A group buy (especially in a group buy forum) is a one time shot at deals for the users. The deals are often short term, organized by your users, have restrictions, and a delayed shipment. They do not pose a threat to Jason or his RX-7 Store but instead offer additional content for the users of the forum, drawing more users and more publicity for the RX-7 Store. If Jason can offer us a better deal than let him do it. As a paying advertiser he has the right to post and can thus counter with his offer.
The whole plan is for use to get enough advertising revenue to cover all the costs. At which point there will be no more Rx-7 Store banner, and Jason will pretty much disappear behind the scenes. But right now a way for Jason to recoup some of his expenses is through advertising his own business.
Of course, and I would expect nothing less. He is advertising, in fact I would go so far as to say that without the forum, Jason would not have a business. Jason is not doing us a favor, the forum and him are engaged in a business deal. I would say that over 90% of his business comes from this forum and its users so of course he will support it. If he is making a dime in profit every month over what he gives to the board then he is making a profit on the advertising. And, once again, I ask if he is actively looking for other advertisers? There is no gain for him to find any...
Again, I just fail to comprehend why you think you know our reasonings. You don't know ****, pardon me... but honestly, you don't. The site's here, and it will be here to stay. If you think Jason's just going to shell out $900/month and expect nothing in return, you're living in happy land.
He is getting an awful lot in return. For $900/month you take care of all of his advertising and provide his revenue for him. If thats not a deal, I don't know what is. You have a very powerful resource with this board and finding advertising should be easy with this large a user base. I object to your slavish mentality towards Jason and the money he gives. He is advertising and paying for that privilage... not donating from the goodness of his heart. Keep ads off the board that are not payed for but do not cut down on group buys organized by users which are a different thing entirely.
08-10-01, 12:04 PM
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BOOSTD7 Do you hate women or just think they are stupid.? Just wondering.
BUT I dont understand why w8 till now and without warning delete group buy posts. Why not put a sticky explaining all this for a few days before it went down.
As far as my post:
The forum does have a problem. They dont allow group buy post. I am not questioning as to why. I know why. Its just that group buys are important to alot of us that need to watch our money and seek out the best deals possible. The better idea is before you starts a group buy post someone ask somebody what kind of deal Jason or whoever can get for us. In my mind it doesnt even have to be the cheapest in order for me to go that route. I dont mind paying alittle more to support my favorite site.
As far as my post:
The forum does have a problem. They dont allow group buy post. I am not questioning as to why. I know why. Its just that group buys are important to alot of us that need to watch our money and seek out the best deals possible. The better idea is before you starts a group buy post someone ask somebody what kind of deal Jason or whoever can get for us. In my mind it doesnt even have to be the cheapest in order for me to go that route. I dont mind paying alittle more to support my favorite site.
We do allow group buys, as I said before. All we ask is that you ok it through Jason before. Most likely, Jason will say ok - or like the guy who started the buy in the 3rd gen section about the Borbet rims. He talked to Jason ahead of time, and gave the forum a small donation in exchange for getting a Sticky group buy thread.
This is the same thing that happened about 2 months ago when we posted the new rules. Everybody started reading into it to much, next thing you know the Rx-7 Forum Admins are all a bunch of Vampires who are just trying to get you to conform so we can harvest you for your blood and internal organs. Some people just love to cause drama.
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Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
Waaaa...
Waaaa...
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08-10-01, 12:16 PM
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People like Matt always amaze me - it's like the wheels are just always spinning in your head, looking for something to get all worked up about. I'm sure if I try to post some sort of retort to your uninformed views, you'd twist those into something that was never intended. You've only been signed up since March, so you don't know any of the real history with Jason and his store. To make a statement like that he wouldn't have a business without the forum proves without a doubt that you are making rash, uninformed judgements.
I'm through talking about this. Read what I've already said if you have any concerns. If you still can't understand, then you're probably in the 2% of the population that thinks we never landed on the moon, and there's nothing I can do to make you think the Forum isn't run by **** facists.
I'm through talking about this. Read what I've already said if you have any concerns. If you still can't understand, then you're probably in the 2% of the population that thinks we never landed on the moon, and there's nothing I can do to make you think the Forum isn't run by **** facists.
08-10-01, 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by rx7style
How old are you again? If your pockets don't run deep enough, which they obviously don't, then quit wining like a woman about money situations, and DON'T HOST THIS SITE!!!
How old are you again? If your pockets don't run deep enough, which they obviously don't, then quit wining like a woman about money situations, and DON'T HOST THIS SITE!!!
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Hey Didnt know all that
My new suggestion is some pleez post the exact information about the steps before you post a group buy. And I am sry for not realizing the details of all this before posting. Get me the information so I can be acurate on my site. Pleez.
Thanx.
Thanx.
08-10-01, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
That's about as ignorant a comment as you could have possibly made... but I should have expected that judging by your past track record in any situation where someone doesn't agree 100% with you.
That's about as ignorant a comment as you could have possibly made... but I should have expected that judging by your past track record in any situation where someone doesn't agree 100% with you.
08-10-01, 12:31 PM
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I wanted to avoid getting involved but here goes.
Jason shells out bucks for this forum to operate. He gets exclusive advertising for it, no big deal. Anybody who contributes to the forum be it monetary $$$ or information (Ted for example) should be allowed to advertise. That sounds fair to me. It was already stated that if you ask permission you will probaly get the ok to set up a group buy. If you really want to set up a group buy situation why not exchange a contribution to the forum for the permission to do so? I dont think that is unreasonable.
Jason shells out bucks for this forum to operate. He gets exclusive advertising for it, no big deal. Anybody who contributes to the forum be it monetary $$$ or information (Ted for example) should be allowed to advertise. That sounds fair to me. It was already stated that if you ask permission you will probaly get the ok to set up a group buy. If you really want to set up a group buy situation why not exchange a contribution to the forum for the permission to do so? I dont think that is unreasonable.
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I think this is one of the best, most informative, threads this forum has had, regarding the forum not cars of course. I suggest moving it to the lounge to let everyone else in on it.
And can we start a group buy for advertising space? j/k
And can we start a group buy for advertising space? j/k
08-10-01, 12:45 PM
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Re: Hey Didnt know all that
Originally posted by gr0undz3r0
My new suggestion is some pleez post the exact information about the steps before you post a group buy. And I am sry for not realizing the details of all this before posting. Get me the information so I can be acurate on my site. Pleez.
Thanx.
My new suggestion is some pleez post the exact information about the steps before you post a group buy. And I am sry for not realizing the details of all this before posting. Get me the information so I can be acurate on my site. Pleez.
Thanx.
... and I won't even address rx7style's comments
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Re: Re: Hey Didnt know all that
Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
... and I won't even address rx7style's comments
... and I won't even address rx7style's comments
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Hey man I was never trying to start problems I am just here to look out for the rx7 guys. So everything is cool with me and as soon as we get some rules I will get my site back right with correct information.
Thanx for all your help, but hey in the future spare the women cracks would ya...
Thanx for all your help, but hey in the future spare the women cracks would ya...
08-10-01, 12:56 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Hey Didnt know all that
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Good. You'd be wasting keyboard strokes. Try coming up with solutions instead of insults.
Good. You'd be wasting keyboard strokes. Try coming up with solutions instead of insults.
08-10-01, 01:19 PM
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ok i just wanted to put in a few coments here.
1. why are people bashing ted? i figured he was the man in the know about rx7s.
2. who gives a flying hoot if rx7 store is advertising on the forum. HAVE you people ever called or looked at the site. you could eaisly look around and find cheaper prices. i have called and jason or whoever answered the phone didnt know diddly about the products he sold. let him advertise because we all know the other sites to find stuff on.
3. who cares about group buy. start one on www.groupbuycenter.com. i understande the reason for a group buy and the reasons why they cannot go on.
4. i am pretty sure that the "bandwith" that you are talking about cannot be THAT bad. my dads website gets a million hits a month and he pays 30 dollars a month for unlimited webspace and bandwith. are you people running t-1 lines to your house or what? i DONT think that a forum like this needs its own t-1 line to operate. most ISPs only have 1 or 2 t1/t3 for their entire client base.
5. why doesnt supraforums have a problem with their hosting or donations or advertising.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm those supra owners...hehe
one more thing, are the donations going towards better firewalls and service pack updates. this forum seems to get hacked a lot for some reason. id say someone isnt taking proper precautions. i havent ever seen teamfc3s.org get hacked.
scott m
1. why are people bashing ted? i figured he was the man in the know about rx7s.
2. who gives a flying hoot if rx7 store is advertising on the forum. HAVE you people ever called or looked at the site. you could eaisly look around and find cheaper prices. i have called and jason or whoever answered the phone didnt know diddly about the products he sold. let him advertise because we all know the other sites to find stuff on.
3. who cares about group buy. start one on www.groupbuycenter.com. i understande the reason for a group buy and the reasons why they cannot go on.
4. i am pretty sure that the "bandwith" that you are talking about cannot be THAT bad. my dads website gets a million hits a month and he pays 30 dollars a month for unlimited webspace and bandwith. are you people running t-1 lines to your house or what? i DONT think that a forum like this needs its own t-1 line to operate. most ISPs only have 1 or 2 t1/t3 for their entire client base.
5. why doesnt supraforums have a problem with their hosting or donations or advertising.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm those supra owners...hehe
one more thing, are the donations going towards better firewalls and service pack updates. this forum seems to get hacked a lot for some reason. id say someone isnt taking proper precautions. i havent ever seen teamfc3s.org get hacked.
scott m
08-10-01, 01:43 PM
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Defy - I'm sorry, I hope you don't take this as an insult, but you're obviously VERY uninformed.
1) Nobody insulted Ted, I said he was an asset to the site, and as such I would let him start group buys at his discression.
2) Jason has a store policy to price match anybody's price. Plus he pays for this site that we all love, so why would you send your business somewhere else?
3) Fine... great... go right ahead!
4) Here's where you really show that you don't have a clue. We use around 150-200 GB/month of bandwidth per month. We peg our T1 for at least a couple hours a day. Nobody sells that kind of bandwidth for $30/month. That "unlimited bandwidth" they tell you comes with lots of small text. And we're on the order of 30 million hits/month. The internet is my business, I know what I'm doing.. and I know that we need at least 1 dedicated T1 for the site.
5) Again, you might not have noticed but Supraforums has been down for the last couple weeks because Warren couldn't afford the bills anymore. Geez dude, you couldn't have set me up any better than that.
And last, you don't understand the nature of the hack. It wasn't the server that was hacked, it was the UBB software. There's a big difference. No firewall could protect against that. Did you notice that we didn't get hid by the Red Alert worm? Probably not, but that's because the server is up to date with patches.
So leave the decision making to those who know what they're talking about... thanks.
1) Nobody insulted Ted, I said he was an asset to the site, and as such I would let him start group buys at his discression.
2) Jason has a store policy to price match anybody's price. Plus he pays for this site that we all love, so why would you send your business somewhere else?
3) Fine... great... go right ahead!
4) Here's where you really show that you don't have a clue. We use around 150-200 GB/month of bandwidth per month. We peg our T1 for at least a couple hours a day. Nobody sells that kind of bandwidth for $30/month. That "unlimited bandwidth" they tell you comes with lots of small text. And we're on the order of 30 million hits/month. The internet is my business, I know what I'm doing.. and I know that we need at least 1 dedicated T1 for the site.
5) Again, you might not have noticed but Supraforums has been down for the last couple weeks because Warren couldn't afford the bills anymore. Geez dude, you couldn't have set me up any better than that.
And last, you don't understand the nature of the hack. It wasn't the server that was hacked, it was the UBB software. There's a big difference. No firewall could protect against that. Did you notice that we didn't get hid by the Red Alert worm? Probably not, but that's because the server is up to date with patches.
So leave the decision making to those who know what they're talking about... thanks.
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Ha ha ha, T-1 line to their house. I'll bet that's what they're doing and paying about $1000/month for it! Ha ha, other than this site I've never seen people complain so much about costs and bandwidth.
08-10-01, 02:20 PM
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ok i just wanted to put in a few coments here.
1. why are people bashing ted? i figured he was the man in the know about rx7s.
2. who gives a flying hoot if rx7 store is advertising on the forum. HAVE you people ever called or looked at the site. you could eaisly look around and find cheaper prices. i have called and jason or whoever answered the phone didnt know diddly about the products he sold. let him advertise because we all know the other sites to find stuff on.
3. who cares about group buy. start one on www.groupbuycenter.com. i understande the reason for a group buy and the reasons why they cannot go on.
4. i am pretty sure that the "bandwith" that you are talking about cannot be THAT bad. my dads website gets a million hits a month and he pays 30 dollars a month for unlimited webspace and bandwith. are you people running t-1 lines to your house or what? i DONT think that a forum like this needs its own t-1 line to operate. most ISPs only have 1 or 2 t1/t3 for their entire client base.
5. why doesnt supraforums have a problem with their hosting or donations or advertising.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm those supra owners...hehe
one more thing, are the donations going towards better firewalls and service pack updates. this forum seems to get hacked a lot for some reason. id say someone isnt taking proper precautions. i havent ever seen teamfc3s.org get hacked.
scott m
ok i just wanted to put in a few coments here.
1. why are people bashing ted? i figured he was the man in the know about rx7s.
2. who gives a flying hoot if rx7 store is advertising on the forum. HAVE you people ever called or looked at the site. you could eaisly look around and find cheaper prices. i have called and jason or whoever answered the phone didnt know diddly about the products he sold. let him advertise because we all know the other sites to find stuff on.
3. who cares about group buy. start one on www.groupbuycenter.com. i understande the reason for a group buy and the reasons why they cannot go on.
4. i am pretty sure that the "bandwith" that you are talking about cannot be THAT bad. my dads website gets a million hits a month and he pays 30 dollars a month for unlimited webspace and bandwith. are you people running t-1 lines to your house or what? i DONT think that a forum like this needs its own t-1 line to operate. most ISPs only have 1 or 2 t1/t3 for their entire client base.
5. why doesnt supraforums have a problem with their hosting or donations or advertising.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm those supra owners...hehe
one more thing, are the donations going towards better firewalls and service pack updates. this forum seems to get hacked a lot for some reason. id say someone isnt taking proper precautions. i havent ever seen teamfc3s.org get hacked.
scott m
2nd, I find it amazing at the number of whiners on this forum. You come here and post for free, so be happy. So what if you have to listen to us ask for donations everyonce in a while. We dont require it, so stop your bitching. Every donation so far is going towards the forum so you can have a place to talk about RX-7's. Once again stop your bitching.
I think its great that people like Ted help others on the forum. I think Ted probably answers more questions than anyone on the forum.
I have no problem with group buys as long as they are approved. The problem that we are running into is that there have been members that are willing to pay to host group buys and its unfair if they are paying and there is a free one going on in another section. Like I said a long time ago, Im not paying for other vendors advertising bills. Especially when Im forking out alot of money to run this site. If this site was free I wouldnt care, but until it is your not going to see to many GB's. If you look around the net please tell me of one large forum that has a GB section? You wont find one, because it detracts from potential advertisers.
For those that think Im becoming Rich off advertsing on this forum, think again. I make enough to get by and pay the bills but thats about it. Im going to fork out another $1k of my money to put towards a new server for the forum.
I dont regulate people posting good deals they have found on the net. I do regulate vendors trying to sell product on this site. That is the same rule on most forums.
Why cant we all just get along?
Jason
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boy,i dont have time to get online for 24 hrs,and look what happens.i was the one that started the group buy.i did not know these new rules.i dont have time to get on here all the time and check for new rules,it seems not that long ago,there was a whole "room" devoted to group buys.i still think it is very disrespectful to just delete the whole thread,its been around for over 2 weeks,why did somebody not eplain this to me in the beginning?it sayd group buy right in the subject.after all my work,somebody just hits "delete"with out as much as a explaination.that stuff pisses me off.i was just trying to help people out.i am NOT a dealer.i read all your reasons for not having group buys,and,you know,whatever.i have my own opinion,but,as we all know..opinions are like armpits..everybody's got a couple,but they all stink.
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