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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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MAP hookup....

Ok, i've seen conflicting reviews of where to acutally hook up a Standalone MAP sensor. Currently i've got a Boost gauge running off the UIM where the factory Boost sensor was. I hooked up my MAP source on the UIM aswell, but on the last of the 3 nipples facing the ALT. I notice a bit of difference between these readings. If it makes a difference, its a J-Spec motor. Any input is reallly appreciated.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Where does everyone feed their standalones from?
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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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nipple on the side of the LIM.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JIMMY54
Currently i've got a Boost gauge running off the UIM where the factory Boost sensor was.
From the factory the MAP sensor is connected to a nipple on the ACV, not the UIM. Where is it connected now?

I hooked up my MAP source on the UIM aswell, but on the last of the 3 nipples facing the ALT. I notice a bit of difference between these readings.
Any nipple fed from after the throttle should give about the same correct reading. The top and bottom nipples on the front of the UIM are fed from after the throttle, so is the bottom one on the back of the UIM and the one on the right side under the BAC valve.

If it makes a difference, its a J-Spec motor.
It doesn't.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 05:57 AM
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Thanks for the replies... Acutally when i said the UIM, i wasnt thinking. You are correct, it is hooked up to where the acv was. So everything seems to be hooked up in the correct places. Basically what i notice is roughly a 5" hg difference between my standalone and gauge in vaccum. I havent been boosting yet, worried that maybe something was hooked up wrong.

Now could it be that i am using too long of a silcone hose to the ECU? I've considered the possiblity that since it is a long distance that the tubing itself may flex giving readings that are slightly off?
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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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That fitting off either the UIM flange or ACV is only pulled from one port.
When you do this, you get huge pulsation due to the dynamics of the motor.
This is really easy to see when you get a graphic datalog of the MAP sensor signal.
I got to see this off a Haltech E11V2.
So depending on how fast the MAP signal is sampled, you can get rather eratic readings.

Thus, going to the either the fittings off the "front" or the "rear" of the front-end of the UIM is a better placement, cause the readings are from the "plenum".
It's a much more stable signal due to the plenum and doesn't fluctuate as much versus taking it from one of the runners.

Note, of the front 3, top and bottom reads vacuum.
Of the rear 4, only the bottom reads vacuum.
All of these 3 fittings are *after* the TB.
If you hook-up to a vacuum fitting prior to the TB, you will never see vacuum - only boost or "0".


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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
That fitting off either the UIM flange or ACV is only pulled from one port.
When you do this, you get huge pulsation due to the dynamics of the motor.
This is really easy to see when you get a graphic datalog of the MAP sensor signal.
I got to see this off a Haltech E11V2.
So depending on how fast the MAP signal is sampled, you can get rather eratic readings.

Thus, going to the either the fittings off the "front" or the "rear" of the front-end of the UIM is a better placement, cause the readings are from the "plenum".
It's a much more stable signal due to the plenum and doesn't fluctuate as much versus taking it from one of the runners.

Note, of the front 3, top and bottom reads vacuum.
Of the rear 4, only the bottom reads vacuum.
All of these 3 fittings are *after* the TB.
If you hook-up to a vacuum fitting prior to the TB, you will never see vacuum - only boost or "0".


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Yup..... Damn ted, I left for a while and come back to you having 20k posts....
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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^^ Would you mind posting a picture of exactly what nipples you're talking about? I've got an s4 n/a and I'm on the waiting list for the Zeal Megasquirt and I've been thinking about where to hook up the MAP sensor.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Yup..... Damn ted, I left for a while and come back to you having 20k posts....
Yeah, been a little busy in here.


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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by arghx
^^ Would you mind posting a picture of exactly what nipples you're talking about? I've got an s4 n/a and I'm on the waiting list for the Zeal Megasquirt and I've been thinking about where to hook up the MAP sensor.
Sorry, this is for 13BT's only.


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