SaturnHKS

I hear that the FC's rear suspension was designed kind of odd, in that it adjusts camber all by itself while you're actually driving the car. What would I need to do to correct this and make an FC easily driftable?

SureShot

Actually it's the rear tow-out that increases with lateral G's.

Start with cheap narrow tires, air the up to max and have a blast!

Black13B

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Or spend the cash and do this.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/faq/rrsteer.htm

Center of The Universe

FC is the hardest car to drift, even with The bushings in and good LSD, it's *** will not hang out for too long.

Not that it's a bad thing. If you can drift an FC you can drift almost any other "Drift car".

I can hop in my friends' 240 or 86 and slide them with no problems. If it wern't for our car's excessive understeer when on stock supension, it would be the perfect grip car. Most of this IMO.

Terrh

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excessive understeer? wtf are you talking about? I can't keep this car's *** behind it when I'm autocrossing. Not that that's a bad thing, mind you... but I've NEVER had understeer issues with proper tire pressures.

Center of The Universe

Hey, that's just what i get. Perhaps you have more experiance in car control.

Rotorific

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I have understeer at low speeds on nitto 450s so yeah i can sort of relate, at high speeds though those tires hold like a champ... If you cant keep an FC out for long then there is something wrong with your car as in the 5/6th ports or something because i can drift a corner with ease and alot of tire smoke as well.

Center of The Universe

My car is working fine. It's p'rolly just driver error. I'm still learning. As we all are.

RETed

Ever watch an S13 drift?&nbsp The stock FC will never do that.
You'll need to redo the steering linkage points to the front hubs to get that kind of steering angle to be able to get that sideways...

Do a search - we've been talking about this for the past several months now.


-Ted

Turbo23

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u know i watch alot of drift videos and such, and alot of those guys dont countersteer as much as most people think, its just small adjustments, granted they do sometimes, but it relies more on skills, but i do agree 240s are better drift cars, but ive seen some FC's do some nice ****

coincopy

links??

Makenzie71

I have one question...why? Drifting is slow.

neevosh

Duh, because it's the coolest new trend.

RotaryRevn

I think it's kinda funny that people here are all jumping on the drift ban wagon. I mean, yeah its really fun and all but I remember watching option video's back in 92 when I was in high school thinking how cool it looked. I guess it's just wierd that the Japaneese have been doing it for sooo long and it's just now getting popular here.

Drifter101

I dunno, i mean i like to practice both grip and drift.. there are times when you just want to break it loose, and there are times when you dont. Its all in the mood... thats like saying "should i listen to This or this"..

RETed

You really need to go drifting in an FC and an S13/S14 - it'll open your eyes.&nbsp Also, if it's Koguchi's FC, it has modified hubs, so he don't count - well, this is what I'm talking about when I mean modified steering points...


-Ted

Turbo23

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there is one drift vid around i have somewhere on one of my cds which shows a silver FC pulling out some mad drifts.

PPC-Racing

as far as driftings goes , anyone who lives in snow country can attest tolearning how to drift before they even had their lic I bet. the whole art of ice racing IS one big drift. Whats new is the fact that well balanced, lightweight FR cars are now affordable to the kids who've watched ID and have seen D1 or the the drift nation shows, that's all.

Frifiting an FC and the different experiences peole have had 9 under/oversteer) can be accounted for usually by tyre and suspension chioce & how the car was set up. For drifting an FC get some steel wheels in a 15" some 195 cheap tyres with harder sidewalls and have the rear toe setup for either zero toe or a .5+ ( positive ) toe, if you drive this a daily then keep it at zero. Ditch the passive steering as mentioned or get used to the shift and compensate for it. ( I'm pretty sure the Enfini does not have this feature) . next up is swaybars you need to reduce the body roll so you can pivot back to center balance again faster without having the weight transfer continue over to the opposite side ( you end up in a fishtail ). It's harder to start a drift like this but it's allot easier to control coming out of a corner or on a longer sweeper..

just a few things i've found that work, how you set up the car in the end usually comes down to what works for you.

SaturnHKS

So the bushings should help? I don't want a car that slides very time I touch the gas and turn, I just want it so the rear end slides out when I want it to. I figure if I get those bushings and pump up the rear tires I should be fine for some drift action.

rx-7s rock

I don't think its funny that the US kids are hopping on the drift band wagon. I think it sucks. America is always behind the times when it comes to influences in music, methods, driving/racing. We still don't use the metric system!!! sometimes I hate the US.

SaturnHKS

I've been watching drifting for like 4 years (yes, since I was 10). I'm only just getting into it now because I'm almost of driving age!

RETed

Oops, wrong guy.&nbsp Koguchi has the S13 hatch.&nbsp I think it's Haraguchi - he drives an FD in D1 now.

If driver skill was identical, then the S13/S14 would be all over the FC, period.&nbsp The steering angle is superior to the FC, and it can stay sideways harder and longer than the stock FC can do.&nbsp You can **** with the suspension all you want, and it won't help - trust me.&nbsp You need to get the steering points modded on the hubs.

I'm talking about COMPETITION DRIFTING when you gotta beat the S13/S14 and Hachis.&nbsp No stock FC is going to beat those cars, unless the other drivers are shitty.

If we're talking about just ******* around on some back road - I don't call that real "drifting".


-Ted

SaturnHKS

Well I'm not really talking about competition drifting. I guess if i get my GXL though, I'll take it to a lot and try to drift, and then determine what I think needs to be changed.

Center of The Universe

Fun. A good way to waste perfectly good tires.
Just somthing that I like to do. It's like skateboarding, not productive, just somthing you do.

Saku

It is raining today and rain + rx7 = fun fun fun....don't even use the turbo lol