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Old 07-18-04, 09:55 AM
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Made heat shield and burnt the rear bumper *$@#

This is crazy! First off, I have never had heat related issues with my T2 GSL-SE but my turbo does not have a stock heatshield. I thought i would cut down on some underhood temps so i bought some high temp insulation from mcmaster (good stuff btw), placed it between the manifolds and turbine and over the turbine housing. The bottom half of the turbo was uncovered. I made some ghetto heat shields from sheet metal to cover the insulation and to test out the difference in intake temps. Well it worked like a charm. Intake temps with the sensor in the dynamic chamber were right under 100F on the highway even with the ambient around 88-90F. The turbo spooling was QUICK and I was pleased as punch. When I parked the car in the garage I noticed to my horror a 6"x4" area of the rear bumper above the muffler tips was literally fried. The paint peeled off! Has anyone else wrapped a turbo and had EGTs increase like a ****? I mean the paint was shinny new up until today with no heat damage. Oh and I am not running very lean. It was tuned previously to run an a/f ratio of mid 12s and 13 for cruising condition. I had zero problems with this tuning until i covered half the turbo. Also, it is a 3" exhaust all the way and I thought it would dissipate enough heat. I bought some tailpipe extensions naturally but what else can I do? I haven't even wrapped the dp yet which everyone had recommended, scared to. Anyone measure egt before and after any heat insulation mods?
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wrapping your turbo/exhaust should not affect EGT's THAT much. it should be like barely even noticeable.. has anything else changed with the car?
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Nothing else changed other than a different TID which again does not affect it. I am speculating a strong oklahoma tailwind but in my 14 years living here I have never seen anything like it. I added 9" tailpipe extensions now, they look ugly but until I figure out what happened they stay.
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my rear bumper is burnt to a crisp in one spot but i thought that was to be expected with a turbo rotary
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Hmm.. I can see it happening in a small spot but I looked today and the damage is an area of 10" x 5". Got to have been some kind of swirling air back there but it is a remarkable coincidence that it happens right after I install the heat shield.
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mine is probably atleast a 5" x 5" area as well
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damn, I guess I won't mess with the afr and timing then. I'll just have the muffler tips point downward. So Jacob, you do have heat shields and a dp wrap on your car?
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dude im from OKC and i know the wind there and no tailwind driving at highways speeds, or any speed for that matter would be enough to do that.
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Here in New Zealand many rotarys have dumper exhaust pipes, that turn right down at the tip. Lots of ppl now call them rotor-tips because of that

Dltreezan- Mabye you should fab up some cf sheilds that protect the rear bumper from singeing ?
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These are real popular
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Well strange then that I drove with those tips for over a year without issues, not even a paint scar and the moment I make a heatshield, my bumper peels off. So what do you guys think, keep the heat shield and wrap the DP or not?
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There has got to be more to it than a heat sheild. I live in Stillwater and ive been to noble a few time (TV) and it is relatively flat but ive had no problems on my stock TII heat shield. I dont know about the placement on your 90' jspec. It should be in a relatively similar spot. I would pull the turbo and try and custom fab a heat shield that is as close to stock as you can get just to be safe but i would also try to look for other irregularities. Thats really weird!
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oh yea, make sure the matterial is not too thick. otherwise it will transmit heat insted of dissipate it. just an idea
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Well, it'll be a while before I paint the bumper so i'll experiment again. I have sprayed some touch-up paint over that section. I'll drive it again with and without the heat shield and see what happens.
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