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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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long startup?

it seems that my car takes forever to start up. i dont know if this is normal, but when i crank it, it takes 5 -7 seconds for it to kick in i guess. some times vary rarely it'll start up right away. if this is a problem what can i do to fix it?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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A rotary engine always takes a little bit longer to start up compared to a piston engine. But if its really long then it may be a weak battery, alternator, or starter. To add to that it may be a combination of those acting in conjunction to slow down the engine while cranking. Other than that it could be low compression.


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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
A rotary engine always takes a little bit longer to start up compared to a piston engine.
Sorry, but I gotta.





Except for the guys who have to dick around with fuel cut-off switches, I can't recall being around a rotary that didn't fire right up. 5-7 seconds is waaay too long.



But if its really long then it may be a weak battery, alternator, or starter. To add to that it may be a combination of those acting in conjunction to slow down the engine while cranking. Other than that it could be low compression.



True dat. Also, worn out plugs won't be helping. Spark quality deteriorates very quickly as the electrodes begin to wear down, increasing the gap. Check your plugs.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:27 AM
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Mine starts instantly. Sounds like you need to start with a compression check, then a tune up.

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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I test drove the RX-8. Brand new everything with less than 300 miles on it. It took longer than my moms 93 mercury cougar takes to crank. Its true man. If you don't know it then you've been away from **** on engines too long or somthing. Line up a honda civic with your 7 and crank them at the same time. Guess who will fire first? The honda I bet ya.



Originally posted by Amur_
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Except for the guys who have to dick around with fuel cut-off switches, I can't recall being around a rotary that didn't fire right up. 5-7 seconds is waaay too long.






True dat. Also, worn out plugs won't be helping. Spark quality deteriorates very quickly as the electrodes begin to wear down, increasing the gap. Check your plugs. [/B]
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
I test drove the RX-8. Brand new everything with less than 300 miles on it. It took longer than my moms 93 mercury cougar takes to crank. Its true man. If you don't know it then you've been away from **** on engines too long or somthing. Line up a honda civic with your 7 and crank them at the same time. Guess who will fire first? The honda I bet ya.
I'm not keen on posting the B.S flag, let alone a 2nd time In the same thread. But I am going to have to side with AMUR_. When the 8 first came out, we had a 8 meet which Incidently resulted In my mug being plastered In the paper with my 7 beside the 8. Anyway, I observed everything that day. One thing I can distinctly remember was that the 8 does not fit Into your description. It fires up like and as fast as any convential Motor. Since than, I've been around the 8's all the more and It has re-affirmed my notion.


aderson34, have you done a compression check on your Motor? How many miles do you have on It?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Maybe its just me acting wacky on the forum. Ah well. Its 8 am and I haven't slept for 22 hours. ****. Maybe its just me or something.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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Why don't you post this question In the RX-8 Forum??? There, you'll get an *** whooping. Here, we tend to be more forgiving to repeat offenders.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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what question


ahhh I need some damn sleep....no....must stay awake to work on TII
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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I've been up for 24 hrs plus!

To pose your statment In a question format.

I test drove the RX-8. Brand new everything with less than 300 miles on it. It took longer than my moms 93 mercury cougar takes to crank. Its true man. If you don't know it then you've been away from **** on engines too long or somthing. Line up a honda civic with your 7 and crank them at the same time. Guess who will fire first? The honda I bet ya.
Get some sleep Santiago. You'll start to think the RX-8...ah, I'll leave It there. I don't want to start the day wrong.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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24hrs bah!


I wonder if you will get a hit from Aaron for being a facilitator?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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I don't understand what you are saying?

I've had time to think about the original question at hand. It varies on start ups? Will It start up faster/slower after the Motor Is warm?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Compression check is in order as RPeck ans Silverotor suggested. Report back your results for us to look at.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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ok i will get a compresion check soon, but if thats fine , should i check and replace the plugs/battery?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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If you are suggesting to do a major tune-up, chances are It's In dire need. Correct the simplist things so you can rule them out. Hence, to keep It as simple as possible so the fewest assumption arise.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by aderson34
ok i will get a compresion check soon, but if thats fine , should i check and replace the plugs/battery?

Check the plugs before you replace them. Why throw money away if they're fine?

Check your electrical connections next. A guy on the rotary newsgroup was about to junk his FB b/c it wouldn't start one morning. We bombarded him with questions and it turned out that it was flooded. He later discovered that part of the reason for that was one of the clamps at the battery was worn out - he went to tighten it a little on the post and it broke. Further inspection revealed moisture between the clamp and the post. He was hardly getting any current through it, and so the starter was barely getting any zap to crank the motor.

Do the simple, cheap things first. And there's nothing cheaper than just looking and poking around. Check your connections at the battery - are they clean and snug? Ditto at the starter. Next step, have the battery tested - maybe it's dying...
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