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Large NPR IC -- Too big?!

Old Jun 17, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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Cool Large NPR IC -- Too big?!

Hey,
I may be able to get a good deal on a large Isuzu NPR Intercooler. I've measured one and it looks like i may be able to shoehorn it into the front of my TII (it'd probably have to go upside down). Is this IC going to work OK for me? I realize that the small NPR intercooler may work a bit better, but I haven't been able to find one around here (anybody know which NPR those came out of?)

So, will it work, or am i insane? It measures like 16.5" x 26-27 (the FC has 26" up front to work with, so i'd need to get a bit creative.

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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 10:02 PM
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i think it'll work...from what i remember Greg is doing this on his 89 T2. PM him for details...also check out www.importformance.com his contact info maybe on there....good luck!
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 10:03 PM
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What kind of turbo?
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 10:28 PM
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I had that IC on my stock series 4 turbo, and it sucked! I saw like 4 lbs of pressure loss, and throttle response was awfull!
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 10:30 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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Felix Wankel: Right now it's the stock S5 turbo, and I hope to have a 60-1 on there by the end of summer

hypntyz7: I assume that's the Large NPR IC then? How is it working for you (pressure drop, etc etc.)? Looks damned good up there

edit -- Those are stunning wheels hypntyz7, what are they? Sweet lookin'

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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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i have one installed. 60-1. got to www.wickedrotary.freeservers.com

you cannot use it with your stock turbo. way to small. i am at full boost by 3500 with a .96 rear.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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HN..hows the TII COsmo??..i need help tuning my E6K once i drop the motor in. Still have the same phone #??.

PISTON EATER. If you are not using the under tray you can install it upside down. I was gonna do that to my small NPR IC but ended up having it customized. The big NPR IC is very huge and you dont want to use it on a stock turbo. YOu will have a bigtime turbo lag.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 11:14 PM
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UMMM actually Hypntyz has the small NPR. I know, I sold it to him. But for those of you wondering, the large one is HUGE. I think probably a little too big, plus it only flows 13 cfm more than the little ones. I have had both, and I think that the small one is better. The big one would be a PITA to fit and is twice the size of the little one. Plus it's ugly and flows less than 10% more. I bet the pressure drop is larger too. All in all, I would say go with the little NPR, which is still pretty big.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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yup..a bit beefier than the Starion IC...

HN is using it because he has a COSMO engine and big turbo.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 11:24 PM
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the little NPR should support 500 hp easily.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Who is selling the small one, though? I've only ever been able to find the big one. For a decent price, I may interested in buying one.

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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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what is the size of the small NPR intercooler and from which year models were these available?
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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Im going to go with TurboGXL on this one, and say that thing is way too much of a monster, and most of its surface area is wasted. Id stick with a small NPR intercooler. The lag will kill you on a stock turbo.

Man, thats just too big....
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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I was selling them like crazy for $270 shipped but I sold the dozen or so I had QUICK!

The core dimensions of the small NPR are 19in x 2 in x 8.5 in. With 2 in outlet/inlets. Overall, about 31 in length by 11 in height. IIRC

The flow rate is like 129 cfm, with a 55000 btu heat reduction, pressure drop of .4 psi. Inlet temp of 240*F outlet temp of 160* F.

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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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the benefit of the large one is ease of install and greater cooling than the smaller unit. the large one cannot be used on the stock turbo. i was using the large one with the stock cosmo twins and had no lag problems, sequentially or later on when i converted to non-sequential. now i have a 60-1 with a .96 exhaust, equall length tubular and have no substancially greater lag than stock.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 02:16 AM
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HN..with the FMIC what should i use for ELBOW before the throttle body?..i kind of like the Greddy type elbow for the 3rd gens.
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