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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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K2RD radiator... Initial impressions and problems.

Some of you might know that I spent the weekend installing the K2RD radiator in my 10th AE. Now that its in, after having to buy a half size Optima battery, and putting in a Perma-Cool finger chopper e-fan, I am somewhat dissappointed in the cooling I am getting from this radiator.

Now, for my disclaimer... Yes I am using the stock temp gauge to measure (or should I say compare) the readings from the stock setup to the setup now.

Having said that, here is what I am seeing. Temps now hover around the 1/2 way point, as opposed to 1/4 point with the old setup. Adding a fan shroud to the E-fan setup didnt seem to change anything. I have checked the system multiple times for bubbles, etc...

Anyone have similar experiences with the same radiator?

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Any updates? I'm about to purchase the same radiator.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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thats odd, i have that radiator on my 20b and it works fine. try checking the radiator caps

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Well, I am still having the same problems. Running about 1/2 on the gauge.

However the fan I am running is unshrouded. I was planning to change the caps and thermostat, any suggestions on radiator caps?

I am also thinking of switching to a shrouded fan, I just havent figured out which one will cover more of the radiator. Maybe the black magic?

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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What kind of driving have you been doing? With an electric fan and no shroud, perhaps the only difference you'd see is from hard driving on a track. Just a guess.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Normal driving! Can you believe it?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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First off, you need to go get yourself a good aftermarket water temp gauge so you know if you really even have a prolbem or not. The stock gauge isnt consistant at all.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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First off, you need to go get yourself a good aftermarket water temp gauge so you know if you really even have a prolbem or not. The stock gauge isnt consistant at all.
Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. However, The stock gauge can still be used to make comparisons.

I am convinced its a deficiency in my cooling system, and NOT a problem with the radiator. Sooo... Its off to the dealer for some parts. New pump, thermostat, and cap.

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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what cfm fan are you using? That may be your problem, i know that with the stock radiator, your supposed to use above a 2700cfm? so you should be using atleast that ifnot more!

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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ITs the 16 Inch Perma-cool finger chopper.

About 2700 CFM
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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well maybe not then? i dunno, if thats not the case.

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p.s. did you ever tell me where i could find those pics?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:36 PM
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Well, Jarrett, I bet it's like 115 degrees out there. Last time I was in Tucson in the summer, my gauge showed operating temps right at half mark. Here in CA with the SAME SETUP, I am running at about 1/8 mark on average-- NEVER more than 1/4. Although I agree it should be cooler than before, consider how hot it was before the swap compared to outside temps today-- how does it run at night?

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Well, I have all the stuff to replace the pump, thermostat, and caps. Should be installed tonight.

As for the pics, you have a pm.

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by PJ-4.2L
Well, Jarrett, I bet it's like 115 degrees out there. Last time I was in Tucson in the summer, my gauge showed operating temps right at half mark. Here in CA with the SAME SETUP, I am running at about 1/8 mark on average-- NEVER more than 1/4. Although I agree it should be cooler than before, consider how hot it was before the swap compared to outside temps today-- how does it run at night?

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Yeah, its a little hot here, and of course, the car runs slightly cooler at night. But I still maintain that something in the cooling system is substandard. Maybe I am being overly picky, maybe not, but I am still going to replace everything. Just to be sure. Its a long hot drive across the desert to 7-stock, and I want to make sure I am completely ready.

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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Okay, as much as I hate to admit it, I was right. The cooling system was bad, not the radiator.

Installed a Mazda OEM thermostat and replaced the rad caps. Now that thing runs so cool its scary.

Now I am one happy rat!!!!

Pics on install to come!

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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Haha sweet, I was going to say I have that radiator and it works great.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 03:49 AM
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Great?!?! That thing is AMAZING!! I boosted the living tar outta my motor in 100+ degree heat today. Then drove straight to a Taco Bell and sat in the drive thru for about 10 mins. Then boosted all the way home..Did I mention it was over 100 degrees? Anyways the temp gauge never passed 1/8 on the gauge (YES I AM GETTING A REAL TEMP GAUGE!!).

My car has NEVER ran this cool.

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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so was it the thermostat or the rad caps?
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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1FastT2 -- is that a stock radiator i see?!?!?!!? Youre pushing damn near 400hp@@!!!$!#! I am very impressed with the stock cooling system.

Just gotta fix mine! lol
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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Awesome, dude. I'm glad you resolved the issues. See you at 7stock!

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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Rat, how much ya pay for the k2rd rad if you dont mind my asking? I cant find prices for their ****
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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I paid $200 for the rad... It came of Soul Assassins car.

And PJ, YOUR GOING?!?! See ya there!!!

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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Holy crap, thats a smoking deal you got i'm jealous.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Yeah, I got lucky... I got to say this. I am VERY happy with the performance with the radiator!

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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J-rat thanks so much on the info. I hate to say it, but members like you give us guys an idea on what to buy when it come to performace parts. Its like a lot of people here are test rabbits so that others can have an upper advantage when buying a product.

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