K&N - drop in filter or kit
I always love how people assume that none of the engineers at Mazda or where ever know that cold air is better. If Mazda was looking to save some money, surely that big complicated airbox is expensive and it would have been cheaper just to put a little filter right in the engine bay. They didn't however, and why? Because believe it or not, they are just as enlightened and know that sucking in ambient air is better. Hence why our cars draw their air from the front of the car by the hood. Besides, no matter what anyone says, you aren't gonna feel the 1-2 hp you might gain on an NA.
Get the drop in.
Get the drop in.
you didn't perform any "test" you took a digital thermocouple and stuck the sensor near your intake, and took it out to the track, i have one permanently installed in my DD with the sensor installed in the intake piping, isolated in the middle.
unless you completely isolate the sensor, keeping it away from the walls and not touching anything your data is not correct, which you said you just stuck it in behind the filter meaning it wasn't attached to anything but the wire and that was jammed in there also
you said yourself it yourself that the stock intake was 10-15 degrees cooler, on the 80 degree day.
you also tried to compare on "test" on a 100degree day with another on an 80degree day thats idiotic. your "Info" is complete bullshit.
and why in the hell did you hack up your brake vent?? and you put a mist thingy right there. what happens when you have red hot glowing piece of metal and you splash water on it??? IT WARPS or it explodes. not only that but the heat from the brakes would also be going directly into the intake any time your stopped
do you really think that 20 dollars worth of pepboys parts is better than the millions mazda put into engineering our cars??
your mod is a hackjob and your info is not correct
unless you completely isolate the sensor, keeping it away from the walls and not touching anything your data is not correct, which you said you just stuck it in behind the filter meaning it wasn't attached to anything but the wire and that was jammed in there also
you said yourself it yourself that the stock intake was 10-15 degrees cooler, on the 80 degree day.
you also tried to compare on "test" on a 100degree day with another on an 80degree day thats idiotic. your "Info" is complete bullshit.
and why in the hell did you hack up your brake vent?? and you put a mist thingy right there. what happens when you have red hot glowing piece of metal and you splash water on it??? IT WARPS or it explodes. not only that but the heat from the brakes would also be going directly into the intake any time your stopped
do you really think that 20 dollars worth of pepboys parts is better than the millions mazda put into engineering our cars??
your mod is a hackjob and your info is not correct
If you took the time.. I put it in the actual intake, not near it. Right before the AFM. I have a probe hole drilled there. I isolated it with a split rubber plug that extends the thermocouple into the center of the intake pipe. I measured the stocker from inside the intake box.
The temp of the 80 degree day with the stocker was nearly the same as the 100 degree day with a cone.
The t-couple was directly in the stream, no it didn't touch the walls. Do you even know what a thermocouple is? It doesn't sound like it based on your immature post.
My numbers are 1000 times more accurate than you armchair postulations, but I don't expect that to permeate you're thick skull.
My brakes are fine thanks. The duct between the brakes and fenderwell was sealed. No negative effects. Mist thingy? Not sure what you mean... that is the remainder of my washer resevoir. Those are OBVIOUSLY pictures of the setup before completion. It's a mock-up for fitment. Again, you're sounding less credible with each post.
My mod is not a hack job. It was an experiment and it turned out pretty well. My car is taking in ambient temp air.
You've proven my point again by attacking my findings with no numbers to back you up. You can't prove your statements and you're pissed off. Get over it or try it yourself. Bye.
Last edited by alexdimen; Mar 27, 2008 at 12:35 AM.
also, your tests are for a cold air intake. not a simple cone filter and adapter setup. that is what we are talking about.
i to have done tests. where i took a thermo sensor with a temp read out, and well... my findings where not too surprising.
i had my sensor taped to the inside lid of the cold air box. since its only like... 5 inches from the afm. i also took temp readings from the drop in at the coupler.
guess which one was getting colder air? as much as 20f?
i to have done tests. where i took a thermo sensor with a temp read out, and well... my findings where not too surprising.
i had my sensor taped to the inside lid of the cold air box. since its only like... 5 inches from the afm. i also took temp readings from the drop in at the coupler.
guess which one was getting colder air? as much as 20f?
