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thank you aaron.. btw i love your conversion.. props all the way..

back to topic: I made the tensioner today and attached a belt. I did not want to go above 4K rpms, because i may exceed the MAF mechanical limitations and start running lean. Though i got a solid 4 1/2 - 5psi from 1K to 4K rpms. So my goal was met. Iam not overspinning the charger. The pully on the charger is 75% the diamiter of the crank pully that i used. the redline of the charger is 10,000rpms, so if my caculations are right that should redline @ 7500 engine rpms.

 

ohh just to add in: My 5-6th ports are in the open position and in 3rd gear from 2K-4K i never felt my car get up like it did. Once I get the money for a haltech and dyno time I will be able to post the end result. Untill i have the haltech and dyno time, i'm not gonna push it over 4k.

 

How much boost do you expect when you can fully rev it up?

 

its a positive displacement type, shouldnt it constantly run at full boost ?

 

4 1/2 - 5psi from idle to redline ... Oh 5psi may not sound like much but with the 9.5:1 compression it should be sufficant.

 

Ah, alright. A few more questions. Instead of the bypass valve, why not wire a switch to the gas pedal to disengage at idle & decel? And was it absolutely required to hammer in your strut tower? What are you expecting/hoping for powerwise, and when are you going to get to a dyno?

 

yes sadly i did have to hammer my strut tower but, even turbo i would probribly have to hammer the frame. there is no longer a clutch on the front of the charger, so it is on all the time. my goal is just to break the 200hp barrier. This is not a track, or race car, it is just a joyriding car for fun.. I will dyno it in a month maybe 2. I first need to save, and buy a Haltech E6X.

 

soon i must start doing the bodywork then i'm going to get a 'Good' Paint job (factory color).. though I have desided to keep the factory rims (just for the factory look) but with 185/55ZR14's

 

i am going to use the zbrown method

 

The zbrown method is probably the most horrific supercharger setup on this forum. Please, do some research before attempting it.

 

That's funny...I was just about to post the same thing.

If you're going to do it, do it right. Mount the supercharger directly above the lower intake, making a plenum to go from the output to the lower intake. Add injector bungs as necessary. Now, you can use a 150 degree (or thereabouts) section of pipe to connect the throttle body to the back of the supercharger in (roughly) it's stock location (but not in it's stock orientation). Your mounting bracket will be a combination of the lower intake and a heavy metal strap that connects from the plenum to the three bolt holes that the air pump used to occupy.

No messing with bypass valves, mounting to the engine mount, etc.

 

You should see my current project, I'm mouting it in place of the UIM/tb, where the alt is, relocating the alt, using an FD serpentine setup, running the outlet straight to a greddy fmic, and the IC then runs back through the passanger side and into a custom manifold that sits ontop the stock tII LIM. The TB wraps around the back of this and sits alongside it on the passanger side, where the AFM/filter will be mounted. Hopefully I'll have an FD alt in the area where the A/C now is. Possibly going to ditch the PS, but I should be able to keep it. We'll see. I plan on doing a complete write-up of everything with costs, so we have a *proper* way of doing it, instead of the horribly inefficient setup that's already been done.

 

That's one way of doing it... hehehe. We'll have to compare notes when I get my setup done. I'm not going to fill you in on the details, but I will tell you that the A/C, alternator, and the Power Steering will NOT have to be modified. The only thing I'm loosing is the air pump. I have everything test fitted and ready to mount I'm just waiting on a couple of parts...

BTW: Is this going on the GTUs?

 

Yes, this is going on the GTUs. You got my mind spinning at rotorfest with ideas, and well, I went buy happy afterwards and started buying things left and right. I'm still debating M90 or M112, I've got both, so we'll see. I've got the entire serpentine setup from an FD, which is why i may have issues with the PS. However, I like the idea of a custom manifold better simply because I can route all my IC piping easier, and it'll look relatively stock in the location. I'd definatly be interested in seeing which way you're going about it. I'm going for the ease of placing it there, simple to convert to serpentine, looks relatively stock, and is easy to plumb everything. The only problem I've forseen so far is on the m90 the bypass actuator possibly might hit my firewall, so I may either relocate it. But, I haven't yet mounted it in it's final resting spot, so it may possibly fit.

 

How are you making this custom intake manifold, as in, what parts are you using? It would seem to me that it would be a very difficult project to do. Do you have any pictures or concept drawings you can show? I'm really curious.

 

Easy, I had my brother make me a flange to bolt to the tII LIM, then i just got equal length runners welded to the flange, and joined it all together in a collector off the end, which has a 3" inlet, which is where the IC mates up.

I could draw something very rough up in MS paint to give you an idea.

 

LoL I get the idea, I think it's my limited experience with piping and welding that makes this seem nearly impossible to do correctly. I guess I'll need to invest some time and money into some welding experience.

This is definitely the way to go, but i'll need to see some pictures of this to make certain i understand. The TB will basically be floating, held in place by the piping correct? How do you plan on getting the cable there?

 

a tII throttle cable is sufficient to reach where I need it to be. And yes, the TB will be floating, held inplace by the stock m90 inlet if I stay with the m90.

 

this is what i like to here ^

maybe now supercharging can cross over the realm of "wow, that's cool but is still stupid compared to a turbocharger" to "wow, that's cool. and it just whooped my turbocharged butt"



i am very much a person of not going the usual route (turbocharging). a detailed write up would be a wicked thing to have. keep us informed.

 

A full write-up will be supplied, as well as some detailed specs (and guides) to making all the brackets, what you'll need, where to get it (with PN's if available) and etc. I'm looking for a serious 300hp out of this setup. Done properly, with a full write-up, so finally people can have an idea of how to do it properly, and I'll even throw in where you can skip costs some and go cheaper than me (i'm going pretty much all-out)

 

Sounds great! Can't wait to see one actually done properly...

Nah, it's pretty easy. You should see the new upper intake going on my car...

 

Sonic rat, what if you placed it between the throttle body and the UIM, you would only need two adaptors right?

 

It won't fit.

 

You could place it before the TB by mounting it somewhere down near the air-pump area, and running 3" tube all the way to the dynamic chamber, and then having the TB somewhere behind it, but that's pretty excessive and i doubt you could fit all of that very easily. Anyway, enough threadjacking, I'll be creating a new thread once I get some pictures/continue on with my setup.