exiletalon

Well, I have a friend who sadly got his 7 thrashed in an accident, however- will be giving me a free front clip ( He pulled the engine/tranny or his car) so it has no body panels/drivetrain) but has everything for RHD, with a mint interior. I am asking you guys ( I have searched a lot) but I need a very detailed, or as most as possible description/ how-to swap a 1988 S4 to RHD ( S4 clip) with pics/ info on everything to do.

Thanks you guys.

13b4me

Search "tinvestor".

phoenix7

SEARCH FOR "WASTE OF MONEY" you'll have a rhd car that won't run because you went ahead and focused on making JDM styles

87 t-66

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if you have to ask, odds are you wont be able to do it

exiletalon

I believe I can do it, I would just really like to see if there are any things I will need to look out for, do I need to extent some harness wires? I would just like to do it right the first time.

also- why wont it run, thats retarded, I have a recently rebuilt engine with 1300, BNR stage 2 kit, and Power FC, full exhaust/intake/720/1000sec./FMIC/piping, believe me I have the engine under control, I am focusing on the uniqueness aspect of it. How is it a waste- If I am getting it for free ( dumbass...??) I have my interior apart right now for the track season ( roll cage, seats,custom gauge mounts, and sound deadening removed, but the dash is out b/c I am renewing the 19yr old wire harness. From what I see the firewall is nearly symetrical. So if you cant help me, then quit the gay Bullshit. Its a simple question, you dont see me flaming on your mod choices.

exiletalon

Dont bomb on me b/c I have a low post count, I have been on here for nearly a year, I research and rarely ask questions. I am not some little immature kid who sits on the computer all day.

killinit937

tell em how it is!!!!. sounds like your working your way up to a job!. the price of the car can go for the rhd swap. dont really have any help. but i would like to see it when your done.

red_s5_fc3s

+1

I've heard that there were some issues... something to do with the ECU, but I'm not sure. Good luck man.

Slow Rotor

Just go buy a jspec like mine and you will have a rhd

phoenix7

you guys....my junk bends a bit towards the left. My friend's GF, Lorena, just messed up his package and I can take a piece of it and make mine lean to the right instead. Very european. should I do it even though I know it's a waste of time and I could potentially lose my manhood and the very LITTLE street cred I have?


come on guy you're going to invest time and money on something that will get you nowhere.

Longshoe

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Take apart your front clip, see how its done, then do it on your car. I would imagine it would take cutting holes in your firewall and welding up others. If you are not comfortable with either of those then you probably should not attempt this.

socalrotor

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From the title I thought this had something to do with BIRD FLU?!

phoenix7

even if he COULD do it, it's still a waste of time, resources and a decent RX just so he could be MORE JDM. Other car clubs have to drastically change their cars in order to be JDM and our cars are as JDM as they can be!!! made in ******* Hiroashima, shipped from Japan and TAXED as a JAPANESE car!!!! He doesn't want his car to be JDM, he wants other ppl to say: "OMGWTFBBQ!!!! that car is SOOOOOOOO JDM!!!!! If is wasn't for the RHD conversion I would have thought it was a CArMARO."

phoenix7

naw if it's JDM fever it is caused by shark meat.

or used vending machine panties

red_s5_fc3s

Well, this may or may not be a good idea, but exiletalon will be the one to live with the decision. Constructive criticism is cool and all, but leave it at that. There is no need to leave negative comments, that won't get anyone anywhere.

I say, "to each his own". So if he wants to attempt the swap, let him, it's his car and his choice.

Exiletalon: Make sure you do plenty of research, it's not all that hard to do the conversion, you just have to have plenty of time, money, and patience.

phoenix7

how is "it's not a wise use of money, time and resources." not constructive?? read between the lines. Read PERIOD!

red_s5_fc3s

This is what I meant by negative feedback.

socalrotor

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I agree 100%. How else can you learn without trying? There is alot of negative comments without any help. I would say that the easiest way IMO is a JDM t2 front clip. Buy one for the RHD parts you want, and part out the rest to make your money back.

phoenix7

If you are so easily offended on the internet I can't imagine how you are in real life. It's not a question of CAN he do it. It's a question of:

1.If he does it will it increase the value of his car? no, not in a country where ALL the cars are LHD (who else besides a JDM fanboi will want a RHD car?)

2. If he does it, will he do it right? considering the fact that he HAS to ask us first doesn't make me feel like he CAN.

3. How much money and time will he spend to get the car put together? depends on his skill and equipment and parts availability ( which he has not revealed to us)

4. is he SURE the car will even turn on?? (again a question about skills and resources)

5. once he gets it done (IF HE DOES) how will he register his car? What's going to stop the cops from pulling him over every 5 miles?

6. Assume his car will NOT be stock AND is RHD. What makes you think his car will not stick out like a sore thumb?? LOUD, Lowered, MOST LIKELY SPEEDING, and on the wrong side as the rest of the country WILL get him pulled over all the time.

7. his car will most likely be a target of theft ( as if the drift kraze hasn't screwed some members here already)



come on guys, this is comon sense. I shouldn't HAVE to post this in detail because as a sensible human being you should be able to get an idea, think it through with the pro's and Cons WITHOUT ASKING US FOR OUR OPINIONS ON THE SWAP.

If it really was his choice only then he should not have posted it in a public forum. Not all of us wear our hearts on our sleeves and not all of us *****-foot and sugarcoat everything. on the internet, just like in real life, I will not hesitate to let you know you are stupid or retarded. Granted I can't put it in those exact words because most of you WILL complain that your egos and feelings were verbally assaulted.

so, he CAN do anything he wants but he asked US what we thought and HOW to do it. You might not like HOW I said it but it makes sense. Why mess with something that isn't broken? (kinda like my ***** analogy, which the smart people probably understood) do WHAT you want, HOW you want it, WHEN you want it but don't be upset if you don't like what you hear.

IF he wants details on what to do then he should DOWNLOAD THE FSM( which is posted in the stickies and mentioned many times in many threads) AND RESEARCH HOW THE CAR IS PUT TOGETHER. He could ALSO look at FC3S.JP for the Japanese FSM.

Read between the lines and don't let your ego take over and make you mad. read between the lines.

13b4me

Why do you even give a ****? Stop trying to boost your post count by flaming other people for their taste in modifications. It would be different if it were something that could possibly prove detrimental to the operation of the vehicle, but it's not. So he doesn't mind not being able to see around traffic. His choice. No need for 10 posts arguing over something so goddamn meaningless.

phoenix7

you're right

lax-rotor

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I'm curious about such modification (not that i'd do it personally... I think shifting with my left hand would end up with my transmission on the road somewhere). From just thinking about it, unless you modify the wiring harness and making a big adjustment with the ecu, you'd have structrual changes as well. You'd have to source a RHD steering rack. You'd have to mount the pedals and dril holes, form new mounting places in the correct location for the clutch. you'd probably have to take and mount everything in the engine bay the other way around unless you have enough silicon tube and wire to customize it. You'd also need to relocate almost every wire to the proper location which in and of itself is a very tedious job. Patching the firewall holes left from the conversion would need to be done, but I suppose that would be the easiest thing to do so far.

On top of all this, you'd have to re-route your fuel lines. either that or increase the length of the delivery hose. Not to mention you'd need to have a custom header made unless you're planning on driving open header (which i highly recommend only for the fact it will shake glass and floorboards... ask me how i know ). beyond that you'll need to change your pumpkin, either by modifying it or getting the RHD. I suppose you could keep your stock rack if you had a fancy way of routing the steering column, but I wouldn't dare drive a car like that if it were so modified. This isn't even considering the fact the engine might need a different ecu (assuming a JSPEC engine).

Now if you feel comfortable with that, and are willing to have your car down for that long while you do it. Do it. If you don't feel comfortable, and you don't want it down for that long to accomplish it, then Don't do it. If you still have an inkling to do it but aren't comfortable with certain aspects of it you may want to get in contact with a person that does have experience with such modifications. Otherwise you might get too much into it and make a mistake that could cost you your frames rigidity. Just my two cents though. Take it for what it's worth.

13b4me

Actually it's not quite that hard with what he has to work with. He has a complete front clip, so the steering rack, harness, etc is still there. You'd have to gut the car down to the wiring, swap the battery harness with the engine harness (there's a hole on each side for this), cut out and mount the steering column, drill holes for the pedals and mount them, mount the brake master cylinder/booster on the other side, clutch master cylinder, etc. The interior and wiring would be my biggest gripe with it.

13b4me

Oh and why would you have to change the pumpkin? Or fuel lines? The engine isn't in the car reverse. It still sits the same way. Tranny bolts the same way. And also the USDM and JDM ECU's are interchangable, with the exception being CA emissions models I believe.

13b4me

And about the header part. (sorry I didn't read your whole post before replying either time)

All JDM engines are turbo, so there would be no header. Just a turbo manifold and turbo outlet going to a downpipe and exhaust that takes the exact same route as the USDM cars.