Intrest in Custom Aerodynamics Underbelley Tray?
04-07-05, 03:18 PM
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On a different forum I posted the question about a quick-release belly pan, since many folks have to remove it often, and I'm lazy. Someone suggested Dzus 1/4 turn locking fasteners, but I have no idea what that actually is, I didn't bother researching. Is that something that you could incorporate into your design, or something that could give it a quick removal?
04-07-05, 03:23 PM
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i was considering making an undertray pan myself, considering i currently don't have either the front rad undertray or the aero tray at the moment. but i would for sure be interested if you did most of the hard work for me 
any idea on cost? you said you would only be selling the template?
any idea on cost? you said you would only be selling the template?
04-07-05, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by coldfire
i was considering making an undertray pan myself, considering i currently don't have either the front rad undertray or the aero tray at the moment. but i would for sure be interested if you did most of the hard work for me
any idea on cost? you said you would only be selling the template?
any idea on cost? you said you would only be selling the template?
Originally Posted by Gatlin
On a different forum I posted the question about a quick-release belly pan, since many folks have to remove it often, and I'm lazy. Someone suggested Dzus 1/4 turn locking fasteners, but I have no idea what that actually is, I didn't bother researching. Is that something that you could incorporate into your design, or something that could give it a quick removal?
SnowmanSteiner;
The aeropannel will work just as well as stock(perhaps better), the ducting will work better than stock. But no I do not plan on setting asside a week of my time to do the measurements and calculations, as most people will not require anything better than stock as far as the drag coefficient goes or downforce for that matter.
04-07-05, 10:36 PM
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Since there are so many aerodynamicists or aeronautical engineers, etc. looking at this, I was curious as to what could possibly be done to make the undertray produce downforce or improve the drag? Dimpling? Or would you have to use two pieces of metal to make a longer type wing? Or would some type of venturi work? Naturally, I'm a total layman, so I'm assuming it is all about shape, so I could be totally off. However, I'd still appreciate the "engineers" perspective on this.
04-07-05, 10:53 PM
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You guys talking about something like this?
Something like this would be fairly easy for anyone to make in a afternoon, and fairly cheap too(depending on what material you decide to use).
Something like this would be fairly easy for anyone to make in a afternoon, and fairly cheap too(depending on what material you decide to use).
04-07-05, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonL
You guys talking about something like this?
Something like this would be fairly easy for anyone to make in a afternoon, and fairly cheap too(depending on what material you decide to use).
Something like this would be fairly easy for anyone to make in a afternoon, and fairly cheap too(depending on what material you decide to use).
04-08-05, 12:16 AM
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that looks almost identical to what I have made, only mine is two piece.... but the ones I want to make will be One piece as well.
also I see that you still have the stock underbelley aero tray, so in addition to what you have there, there will be a piece between the bottom of the raditor and the engine craddle (k member) so that it will not interfere with the sway-bar flex, as well as the steering assembly. Just another piece to force air to go where I want it to.
Yes it could be done, but I don't think most people are willing to pay the price for all the time and design and testing to prove it. this piece will improve downforce in extremely minute amounts, as well as decrease drag coefficient.
also I see that you still have the stock underbelley aero tray, so in addition to what you have there, there will be a piece between the bottom of the raditor and the engine craddle (k member) so that it will not interfere with the sway-bar flex, as well as the steering assembly. Just another piece to force air to go where I want it to.
Originally Posted by Flash
Since there are so many aerodynamicists or aeronautical engineers, etc. looking at this, I was curious as to what could possibly be done to make the undertray produce downforce or improve the drag? Dimpling? Or would you have to use two pieces of metal to make a longer type wing? Or would some type of venturi work? Naturally, I'm a total layman, so I'm assuming it is all about shape, so I could be totally off. However, I'd still appreciate the "engineers" perspective on this.
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04-08-05, 12:21 AM
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I R SAD PANDA W/O BAW
I think Higgi made the above aluminum tray. I like how it doesnt cover the steering rack, sway bar, and oil pan. Only goes up to the point where the radiator ends. Makes it easier to access some things.
04-08-05, 01:59 AM
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Mark
56-11Y is stock alu panel under oil pan, which does nothing else then keeping your leaking oil from dripping down
what makes sense to make/sell and is important to have is the plastic undertray 56-111B
Either stock one or some replacement which does same thing (keep air going to where it should - coolers and not around/under them)
On all our cars with FMIC's we are seeing big differences in temps and ability to keep it cool with every improvement we do in those undertrays.
56-11Y is stock alu panel under oil pan, which does nothing else then keeping your leaking oil from dripping down
what makes sense to make/sell and is important to have is the plastic undertray 56-111B
Either stock one or some replacement which does same thing (keep air going to where it should - coolers and not around/under them)
On all our cars with FMIC's we are seeing big differences in temps and ability to keep it cool with every improvement we do in those undertrays.
04-08-05, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hIGGI
Mark
56-11Y is stock alu panel under oil pan, which does nothing else then keeping your leaking oil from dripping down
56-11Y is stock alu panel under oil pan, which does nothing else then keeping your leaking oil from dripping down
what makes sense to make/sell and is important to have is the plastic undertray 56-111B
Either stock one or some replacement which does same thing (keep air going to where it should - coolers and not around/under them)
On all our cars with FMIC's we are seeing big differences in temps and ability to keep it cool with every improvement we do in those undertrays.
Either stock one or some replacement which does same thing (keep air going to where it should - coolers and not around/under them)
On all our cars with FMIC's we are seeing big differences in temps and ability to keep it cool with every improvement we do in those undertrays.
Last edited by Icemark; 04-08-05 at 09:06 AM.
04-08-05, 12:21 PM
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Icemark, I would be more than willing to build the one your are describing, however I would need to see pictures of it, if at all possible... as I not entirely sure as to it's position and mounting, neither it's purpose... if you can source me a pic of it either on the car or not I will see if it will be easily replicated.
