2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

injector

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:25 AM
  #1  
MrGoodnight's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 620
Likes: 4
From: Tacoma Washington
Smile injector

hey guys i have a 86 13b non turbo and i'm trying to find all four injectors, i found two on the passenger side. I'm also new to the rotary world so any good information would be helpful. I'm having a flooding problem and the car will not start, and ive been reading that its common for the injectors to leak. so if you guys can give me any information that'd be great.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:37 AM
  #2  
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
Sharp Claws
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 50
From: Central Florida
it's actually uncommon for the injectors to leak, people just refuse to believe they either have low compression or don't have enough common sense to figure out how to check for vacuum leaks.

getting sick of hearing leaky injectors blamed as the #1 reason for flooding.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:48 AM
  #3  
RotaryRocket88's Avatar
Top Down, Boost Up
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,718
Likes: 6
From: San Diego, CA
For hot start problems, the stock start map is the root of the problem. With engine temps 149* and up, stock ECUs run an injector pulsewidth of about 20 ms. In my own experience, 8-10 ms will start every time. 20ms is just overkill.

Hailer's came up with a semi-fix to trick the ECU into using a smaller pulsewidth here: https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/looking-car-has-hot-start-problems-499744/
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 12:05 PM
  #4  
Evil Aviator's Avatar
Rotorhead
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 9,136
Likes: 39
From: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
Originally Posted by see me sideways
hey guys i have a 86 13b non turbo and i'm trying to find all four injectors, i found two on the passenger side.
The factory service manual shows the location and the testing method for the fuel system. If you don't want to buy one, there are links to free online manuals in the FAQ of this section. A good companion to the factory manual is the Haynes maunal, which has nice pictures for noobs, and is about $15 at your local generic auto parts store.

Keep in mind that you will need to remove the upper intake manifold to get to the primary injectors, and you will need a new gasket when you put it back together.

Originally Posted by see me sideways
I'm also new to the rotary world so any good information would be helpful.
Read the FAQ and the manual first, then ask questions if you need more details.

Originally Posted by see me sideways
I'm having a flooding problem and the car will not start, and ive been reading that its common for the injectors to leak.
The flooding issue can be either the hot start problem of the stock ECU as mentioned above by RotaryRocket88, low compression / vacuum leaks as mentioned above by Karack, or leaky injectors.

The unflooding procedure is listed here:
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/2ndgen/techmenu.html
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 12:11 PM
  #5  
MrGoodnight's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 620
Likes: 4
From: Tacoma Washington
alright thanks for all the good information guys, I'll let you know if i have any more questions.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 07:22 PM
  #6  
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
Sharp Claws
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 50
From: Central Florida
well the ECU running rich on hot start is generally tied to low compression, a good condition engine and control system will start fine. i will admit it is mapped a bit too rich and even average to mildly low compression engines suffer from hot start issues due to it.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
HalifaxFD
Canadian Forum
126
May 9, 2016 07:06 PM
connerfd3s
New Member RX-7 Technical
11
Sep 19, 2015 05:58 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:59 AM.